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More Long Sleeves

Here is a few more of the long sleeve armors using ChickenGeorge's updated mesh (a717). The gloves on the male model look better. A few items look good "out of the box" but many need more texture work. I'm trying to make some more traditional styles of armor as well as modern looking stuff and well, stuff. I haven't been feeling well lately so I'm not doing very much modding or anything, really. More moping than modding, tee hee. Tongue


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You do very nice work.

ChickenGeorge wrote:

You do very nice work.

Thank you. I have a couple of questions for you that I'll ask later. I stayed up all night again (it's just past 5 AM here) so I'm kind of fuzzy right now.


Black Widow plate. I have to work on the legs some more.

Don't forget about you know who kathy. Wink

Very nice long sleeves...i been wanting to do one myself but lacking the long sleeves mesh... i want to do this camo to make a military style look

Darkelf wrote:

Very nice long sleeves...i been wanting to do one myself but lacking the long sleeves mesh... i want to do this camo to make a military style look

Thanks DE. Smile

I've attached ChickenGeorge's long sleeve a717 mesh pack. I've always thought some armor styles look so much better with long sleeves vs short. The shoulder styles make a difference too, but then you must know about BIG SHOULDERS!!!! from having played WoW. lol My wow shaman had some shoulders that were almost bigger than her head...horns included! Here are some other types of camo fabrics. I want to make a whole suit for myself with
this stuff.

CG, I was also wondering how difficult it would be to make a version the A2 with long sleeves? If it's a bother or anything, then no worries.


I lost almost all of my uv map thingies a long time ago, but this texture gives an idea.



PS All hail the Skrit Lord! Tongue

Hope you feel better KathyCF.
Dentist are just the worst!
I've got real horror stories from them.
But when you're in pain what choice do we have.
But May seems an extreme wait IMO.
Ut-oh. Hmm.
I'm not quite sure how 'wise' it is giving 'everyone' access to this.
The mod I PMed to you.
I was happy to share it with you.
You were so helpful to me when I first arrived.
Not a big deal. But seeing what some people were requesting.. :/
I can only hope for the best.
Lol, but that never seems to happen to me.
I'm not anybody's Papa. And forgive me for sounding judgy.
Worried about my name being brought up with other people's (yikes) creations.
This is why I shouldn't share stuff.
Reminds me years ago of the Dark Crystal forums.
This is something I don't want to continue with.
Gettin that signatured vibe.
Writings on wall and such.
But what a fun time I had here at Siegetheday!

I wish you all the best. I'm taking leave now.
If anyone is interested you can occasionally find
updates to my mods at Projectbritannia forums.
Or new mods too when I get time for it.
Smile Smile Smile

kathycf wrote:

P.S. A2 long sleeve? Intriguing.
I'll take a look at the A2 armor.
But not sure I want to release anything that requires collaboration anymore.
If I do, look to my website for it.
https://sites.google.com/view/chickengeorgemods/home

ChickenGeorge I apologize about this. I took the mesh attachment packet down, so that is no longer available to download. I'm sorry I did not check with you first before sharing it. I'm not sure what happened with you sharing your work in the past, but there were no ill intentions here. I mostly make mods for my own personal use, but I post because it's fun to get other people's feedback.

Dungeon Siege is a twenty year old game and while folks still care we all know we are a very small population and Siege the Day is a small website serving an extremely niche audience. Even when Dungeon Siege I and II were still somewhat current, Siege the Day has always been a small community focused on modding. Most of the modding that happens here now isn't meant for widespread distribution.

I've been here for over fourteen years and I know most of the modders here are long term "residents" also. In that time, I've never seen anyone with a predatory or exploitative attitude towards another person's work. Anybody who had exploited or abused another person's trust would have been flat out banned, I assure you.

I enjoy your creativity and I'm so sorry to have made you uncomfortable. I hope you will not leave the community because of this.

kathycf wrote:
ChickenGeorge I apologize about this. I took the mesh attachment packet down, so that is no longer available to download.

I wouldn't apologise too profusely kathy as I'll wager that no one downloaded it anyway, and even if they did the members here don't claim ownership of anything that doesn't belong to them anyway.
This is what pisses me off about modding games in the first place, you have a games company giving as much helpful information to us as they can for free and some one comes along and does a few little edits and then write protects their piss ant little mod.
Well all I can say to that is if GPG had done the same no one would have been modding anything, I couldn't give a rats ass if a mod is write protected or not, if it is it gets binned if it isn't then the files get checked for compatibility and more often than not that mod gets binned as well.

I just shake my head at the way some modders have treated with disdain the generosity of GPG, you other members might not agree with me but I couldn't give a flying **** about that, and there ends my thoughts on the issue.

i know i didnt download it cause just now reading this...i will test the camo on a ds issued armor if i ever get myself away from swtor long enough that is, was just throwing the camo out there to see if it could be done, i think most of the ds original armor is ugly so it nice seeing new works for this game. and i can understand not wanting people to have access to their works, there was a time i saw my mods on sites that i didnt upload too, and i got bitter and started making eulas that barred distribution and such.

Moros wrote:

kathycf wrote:ChickenGeorge I apologize about this. I took the mesh attachment packet down, so that is no longer available to download.

I wouldn't apologise too profusely kathy as I'll wager that no one downloaded it anyway, and even if they did the members here don't claim ownership of anything that doesn't belong to them anyway.
This is what pisses me off about modding games in the first place, you have a games company giving as much helpful information to us as they can for free and some one comes along and does a few little edits and then write protects their piss ant little mod.
Well all I can say to that is if GPG had done the same no one would have been modding anything, I couldn't give a rats ass if a mod is write protected or not, if it is it gets binned if it isn't then the files get checked for compatibility and more often than not that mod gets binned as well.

I just shake my head at the way some modders have treated with disdain the generosity of GPG, you other members might not agree with me but I couldn't give a flying **** about that, and there ends my thoughts on the issue.

First off, let me say this has nothing to do with Kathycf. Certainly meant no offense to anyone.
There is here a misconstrued notion. I am in total agreement about sharing one's work, either minuscule work, or lengthly works and projects. And freely.

I truly never thought what I do as a possession,
or my right to do with one way or another.
Also I have never given that impression. Ever.
Once I had a bad experience with somebody who did modify my mods, replaced my own mods with a replacement, that caused the mod to no longer work.
Which made me shaky from then on.
And ONLY.... I repeat ONLY THEN, did I start ticking the protection flag on the tanks. Which I have said very plainly before.
But that has nothing to do with any sense of ownership or control. But I know that some people have a tendency to insist beyond this revelation.
I bare to you all my feelings.

And will repeat that I wish I did not EVER have to tick the protection flag on tanks.

And will repeat again that I am willing to offer all I can in help if somebody wanted to learn what I do.

Which is more then compensation for ticking the protection flag. That way whatever new creation somebody makes is one with a different NAME then what my mod uses.
That’s all I wanted protected. The NAME of the files of the mod.

Nothing else. Just the NAME.

Not the textures, shapes of the meshes, or anything else. Just the NAME.

Because knowing the name can cause the disruption I had to deal with before. We still have words exchanged but it is a private matter. It is a precaution. Is it an overzealous precaution? Yes it is, at first glance. But you just can't imagine the crazy nerd war.
None of what I do, or am doing, is important. It was a very silly simple thing.
Not something grandiose. Not something deserving scrutiny. It was merely, simply, minuscule a privacy matter. Nothing more. Not for any other reason but a privacy matter. Privacy.
Privacy.
Not some control freak over usage rights or copyrights or whatever term that is being generated for this social execution.
Privacy in such a way that any message this long I feel is really unnecessary and then so embarrassing to have to make. But make I have to, apparently.
I also have a good solution now to the issue, if anybody wishes to partake in it.
Anything I use in my mods, I can just make a duplicate WITH A DIFFERENT NAME! and then PM you the item. It is much more then any of the older modders gave to me.
AND I WOULD EVEN PREFER NOT TO HAVE CREDIT ATTACHED TO THE ITEM. That way there wouldn't have to be post like this.
Doesn't that sound like a desirable thing on my part?
(maybe if somebody is hell-bent on making sound as such)
But nobody has ever requested my help.
But truly it is unfair to pick it apart when I have more then made myself available beyond ticking the protection flag on the tanks.
Not one who hides there talents from others.
When I released the stat potions for Lazarus, people wanted to know how to do it for Dungeon Siege.
(link)
I didn't know how then. But I went ahead and found out. And released the stat potion for Dungeon Siege.
(link)
You know what? Suddenly nobody wanted to know how to do it anymore. No matter. I went ahead and told everybody.
Is that somebody who feels entitled? Is that somebody who feels they have to keep things from people.
CERTAINLY NOT!
I hate long explanations too, but it has to be said. To summarize:
I am truly honored that Kathycf found a use for the mesh. I meant no offense to anyone. And I never sought to keep my work from people. I have always offered my help.
Siegetheday has always been a source of pleasure for me, and surely for anyone else. I hope the forum gets fixed though some day.
I went to make an exit because it was a very small and simple precaution. A stepping aside. Not some slamming the door exit with implications. It had love and respect. Getting out before bad blood gets advertised. One can go on to invent or invite the notion perhaps. Too late? Well seems I can do nothing else about it.
I love and respect siegetheday. A wonderful place with modders interested in Dungeon Siege. I don't think there is anywhere else where DS modders came talk shop.
Gmax is primitive but it may be the only tool we have to insert 3D meshed into Dungeon Siege. Maybe someday somebody can write a script for modern programs that can handle the Bones and even animations! I hope someday somebody takes up this task.
Please forgive the long post. I certainly don't like making them.

Whoops forgot to post the shameless plugs... I mean links to those potions...
Laz potions:
https://siegetheday.org/?q=node/7014
DS potions:
https://siegetheday.org/?q=node/7110
https://siegetheday.org/?q=node/7109

I have good thoughts about stuff...Everything except teeth and plumbing. Smile