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I uploaded what I could find

Well I uploaded the DS1 and DS2 patches I could find. If there are any more that you might have or know about please upload them.
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I recently played through DS2 for the first time, and got a hankering for DS1 after 10 years. Your site and the mods here are exactly what I needed to get back in the 'Ehb' and flow. Wink I just finished compiling every siegelet worth playing, from Copperhead to Hyperborea. I had to search quite far and wide for all these maps, a lot of broken links and toolbar sneak attacks. At last, I have my next month or so of gaming laid out. I was wondering if you had plans to upload all the DS1/LoA siegelets existent..? I have 9 maps so far, some of which I've played before, others weren't out when I played. Those I'll mark * thusly:

Lands of Hyperborea
Mage World*
Realm of Kings*
Elemental*
Ultima 5: Lazarus*
Legends of Utrae
Copperhead: Retaliation
Circle of Lorent
Steels World

I noticed your DL section didn't include all these, also there are special install instructions for LoH and MW that aren't included everywhere they can be DL'd... I know you're probably more aware than I about all this, but I'd like to help if I can, to get all this content onto your site which is the only active one I've found. Let me know, I gave my e-mail, but if you want just reply here and I'll check back.

Thank you for the nice comments about the site. Yes getting copies of those maps would be useful. However unless you register as a member I can not access your email address and send you the information you would need to get the maps to me.
You might wish to check out the following forums as they contain DS1 maps that have been converted to work with either DS2 or Broken World.

http://www.siegetheday.org/?q=node/1607
http://www.siegetheday.org/?q=node/1330
http://www.siegetheday.org/?q=node/1308
http://www.siegetheday.org/?q=node/2538

Welcome to Siege the Day

Elf

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I am surprised that BE did not point you to the link under DS Communities called Dungeon Siege - Legends of Heroes as it contains some of those files which originally lived on Witness's SiegeNetwork, Most of the SiegeNetwork's download links are dead but the forums are still there and contain tons of useful data.

Shadow Watcher

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Registered. Smile I've been to the Heroes site, it's where I found the LoH/MW install instructions. Some links there are broken, like Xaa's old wenchofwoe site. Their copperhead DL mirrors are all broken, incomplete or registers that want you to install a toolbar. I dunno... They don't host the mods, so it's still a crap shoot. I like the idea of being able to one stop shop and receive support. The community has migrated and seems to have lost all interest, but not here. I have the files I DL'd and I'm looking at the DS1 in DS2 idea, though I'm unsure if I want to go through the hoops to get it working. If their's a community and an interest, I might start mapping for DS2 as I'm kinda bummed there aren't any full siegelets for the 2nd game. Lotta potential there, just seems no one got on it in as big a way as the first game. Oh, and the dsabstraction site is down, yer link's to a for sale domain. apologies for the haphazard (read:flaky) nature of this writing. I'm hopped up on Halloween candy. Smile

I have a working copy of Abstraction and will upload it here in the next day or two. Also the creator of Abstraction is a member here and visits from time to time. So keep asking questions and if you would like to give us some help testing the mods we are currently working on, making a mod of your own and need ideas or help let us know. Oh I should tell you making a mod for DS2 is quite a bit different than doing one for DS1. I mod mostly weapons and armor I suck at building a map, however I can tell you that there are many more details needed to mod DS2 for example in DS1 you would make one armor image and it would work on all character types. with DS2 you need an image that goes with each skin color
there are nine female images required, six for males, 3 for half giants, 3 for dwarf and one called ground armor. The layout for each is also different which kinda sucks. requires more templates as well. I can create an example for you based on just one armor and make one playable in ds1 and one playable in DS2 and you can use tankviewer to look at the differences if that would help. Talking to iryan and killergermal for the differences in building a map would be really useful.

Elf

Shadow Watcher wrote:
I am surprised that BE did not point you to the link under DS Communities called Dungeon Siege - Legends of Heroes as it contains some of those files which originally lived on Witness's SiegeNetwork, Most of the SiegeNetwork's download links are dead but the forums are still there and contain tons of useful data.

Shadow Watcher


Welcome Araknuum to the site.

Gamefront has quite a few mods and maps for Dungeon Siege 1 and Legends of Aranna; http://www.gamefront.com/files/listing/pub2/dungeon-siege & http://www.gamefront.com/files/listing/pub2/Dungeon_Siege_Legend_of_Aranna
Sadly they don't have much for Dungeon Siege 2.

Unfortunately GPG took a very long time to release the Editor for DS2 and I believe that kind of killed off interest. Plus MMORPGs were taking off in droves and meant a lot more competition for playing and modding time. When the original Dungeon Siege was released there was a void in RPGs, especially those that could be modded to the extent Dungeon Siege could be.

Making maps in Siege Editor 2 is very much like it was for the original game and it has a lot more potential as far as mapping goes. I suggest modifying existing regions at first to get a hang of how the editor works. If you imagine the maps being created by a thousand 3D jigsaw pieces, you would get an idea of what it's like. It takes quite a while to work out how all the pieces fit together (they're not particularly well organized in the editor) - making a flat boring landscape is very easy but making the natural environments of DS2 and LOA is particularly difficult and time consuming.

You can make brand new maps by creating a map and region within the editor and having the region consist of a single tile with a starting point (which the editor will place automatically for you). The copy an existing region as a prefab and load it within your map's region and attach it to the starting tile (the starting position may need to be moved elsewhere within the new region). Save the region, compile it and test it. Probably will be heaps of minor errors with broken triggers, etc, but should be playable. Understanding and fixing all of those errors will be educational as well. I used this process with a couple of regions I modified in DS2BW Adepts. One was quite extensively modified from the original region to become a new town with npcs, etc. It was far quicker to do that than to start from scratch, especially as I'm not really a mapper. I also extended two unused regions in LOA in the DS1 MapPack that were only partly completed and inaccessible to players, to be brand new regions for the player to play and explore within the game.

Darkelf has also made some mini maps for DS2 found here at Siege the Day. You could get some ideas from those.

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I'm up for the challenge but I can't find a working copy of the ds2 siege editor... Sad

Araknuum wrote:
I'm up for the challenge but I can't find a working copy of the ds2 siege editor... Sad

http://www.siegetheday.org/?q=node/971 There are also other useful tools for modding in the same section as the tool kit.

Elf

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You are so...effing...COOL!

Something that also will be very useful is Siege University which has a lot of information and tutorials on using the Editor.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080613131007/http://garage.gaspowered.com/?q=siegeu2

If you follow the links on the left to Siege University for Dungeon Siege 1 there's additional information on basic mapping and how the Editor works. Some of it is out-dated but if you follow the tutorial on making your first map, that is still relevantjust replace references to Siege Editor 1 with Siege Editor 2); http://web.archive.org/web/20070608190317/http://garage.gaspowered.com/?q=su_100