DS1 Legendary Mod for DS2 Beta Thread

I've solved one of my earlier puzzles - convos (such as the undertaker's) in conversations.gas can be ignored because they have been superseded by ones in e.g. conversations_tombstone.gas. From that I can confirm the undertaker has been given a female voice sample (s_vo_npc_f_soft_hello).

I was wrong about the mayor's mini-portrait - it is not the portrait that is different from what it was in DS1, but the man himself, that is why they do not match. I've got out DS1 you see and been playing the Act II start for comparison.

Another PS to Act I - yes, the Snow Queen really is less impressive than I remembered, because she had some light effects around herself in DS1. There, she could teleport herself short distances (like Ha'ku witch doctors in DS2) and she summoned several gargoyle-equivalents at a time to fight for her.

2.2, All*Saves v2, Mod Logic Beta32k, Yesterhaven Beta32j, MLA Beta5r at Local + monster-adjust-declared

Quests: Defend the Town has been trivialised. Hero gets it automatically on returning to town and it is completed simply by talking to the captain. Player hears the captain's little [conversation_help] in NIS but otherwise only [conversation_kellan_haunted] (both when giving the Gwendolyn quest and as subsequent get-on-with-it), never [conversation_no_quest_kellan_haunted] which originally went with giving Defend the Town.

Stepping off the ice elevator I saw not just the radar quest star over the captain, but also arrows pointing in two other directions. Because two completed Act I quests had uncompleted tasks?

Originally the captain (who is after all supposed to be in charge of town defences) helped in the fighting, wearing the same armor as in Act I. (Why didn't GPG rearm him with a sword?) The door behind him was locked until the quest completed so the only other npc players could talk to then was the undertaker, who they'd be almost certain to find whilst looking for the monsters they had to kill.

What the undertaker has to say is important to the plot but speaking to him now I do not get his convo that matters, [corpse_summoner_base], only his [corpse_summoner_nocorpse] which should be for subsequent meetings (such as asking for his services!)

Back in Act I, [conversation_gwendolyn_snow_shop] was too big for the convo window so the important last paragraph about the necklace was hidden. Players could easily miss that they were supposed to scroll the convo. (The hero's negative response didn't fit unless they did, so that was one clue.)

First time one speaks to her in Act I she should mention the necklace before offering potions and finding who it came from is worth making into a secondary quest (especially with the map being light on quests!) resolved at the start of Act II.

Should players be forced to hear everything both the undertaker and Redric have to say before heading into the forest, or would that be going too far?

Trivia: my general remarks earlier about Fiathna's hiring convo hold good for Tajj's also, but that is being revised anyway. I've confirmed that Fiathna's recalled-from-inn remark works.

In the original, the Snow Queen's ice elevator went back up, never to be seen again, as soon as everybody was off it.

Y32j#19. Radar in haunted town shows not just the ice elevator but larger bits of the sky ice realm too, overlaying the town.

Y32j#20. Stash chest and teleport in haunted town have both moved from where they were in snow town (from the north road one side of Gwendolyn's house to cemetery entrance the other). "See, I told you this was a peculiar town" - Redric.

Y32j#21. Though west gate is locked closed, party members can leave haunted town through it (which they could not do from snow town). They can then open it from the outside if they wish.

Y32j#22. Though east gate (back of cemetery) is openable, both party members and monsters can move through it anyway even when it is closed.

Y32j#23. No Mayor Gilwin in haunted town (the spot where he was in DS1, within the smith's house, has been taken by his wife the innkeeper).

(In the DS1 original, Redric took over the potion-selling job. Here he cannot because he is the enchanter, so it has been added to the armor-selling job, but if Gilwin were here then maybe he could sell the salvaged potions etc.)

Restarted after installing updated logic file to fix Phraks and removing my mod that used Kelti's template

Utraean Peninsula SE 32K

Broken World AllSaves

Monster Level Adjust Status LOCAL

See Far Hack On

Save Location

Fallraen (Town of)

Quest Log

Primary Quests – Elddim Townstone, Crystwind Townstone

Secondary Quests – Farmer's Scythe, New Way to Travel, Orchard Cellar, Hovart's Folly, Travel to Crystwind, Dwarven Secrets, Travel to Fallraen, Fallraen Barracks.

Comments, Fixes That Work, Errors, Problems

1. Radar looks good

2. Monsters leveling correctly

3. Quests completing correctly.

4. No Hiring problems

5. Elevator at exit of Crystwind Old Mines working great now

6. Legionnaire Archer at exit of Crystwind Old Mines is Dead and can not tell you the path has been changed.

7. Quest Arrow on exiting Crystwind Old Mines points back into mine and does not correct itself until you reach the Ziggurat.

8. I know you revised the Fallraen Barracks Quest, but what did you change? The quest has never been a problem for me and still is not.

Party Members

Kylee Level 28 Sharpshooter

Tiahna Level 28 Sharpshooter

Xavier Level 27 Sharpshooter

Arisu Level 28 Magus

Ivlisar Level 28 Magus

Dog Level 28 Knight

7. Possibly because the path around to the Ziggurat is like a large circle. The actual path to Fallraen does actually go over the mines. Perhaps that's why I got some reports concerning the shortcut, which normally players would probably miss in DS1. Here the quest arrow points towards it.

To fix this I would have to include another task between exiting the Mines and reaching the Ziggurat. What that task could be named I have no clue.

This is probably why the regions in DS2 are laid out straighter with less twists and turns than in DS1. They made the regions to fit in with the quest tasks rather than the other way round.

8. I'm glad it still works. I did try making killing the monsters critical but it's too ifty and there's too many of them (over 50). So I ended up moving the trigger which enables the ending quest trigger, to exactly half-way through the dungeon by using the exact same trigger GPG did in DS1. So the logic is that if the player reaches the half-way point of the dungeon (its roughly shaped like a doughnut), they will continue onwards around the dungeon and so enable the trigger at the entrance. To stop this trigger from being enabled the player would have to nearly reach the middle of the dungeon and then turn around and then proceed around the other side and then stop just short of the middle again.

Why I felt inclined to move the trigger in the first place from the position GPG had it, I have no idea (remember this goes back to about 3 years ago).

7. I know the arrow points to the shortcut, but I thought you wanted people to follow the main path. I found it in DS1 and have used it in DS2. If you where going to add an additional quest item you could always have something like find the Ziggurat. But you could also leave it alone.

8. Okay that makes sense, I had always made a full circle of the Barracks either going around from left to right or right to left. That is why I never had problems with the quest. Thanks for the explanation.

Some Legionnaire guards in Fallraen are also on the ground dead when you open the main gate and one is dead behind the church.

Don't worry, I know it's a alpha version !

MLA Local.

So far, everything past the Crypts is working fine. Ordus's Axe I promptly sold as I had a better weapon.

Due to a rare Glitch that has shown up now and then since I first started Broken World I had to dump the Dwarf and switch to the Dryad Nature Mage

Level 12 party of 4 at second DC.

At this rate this thread will hit 3000 sometime in the Spring

:goofy: :twisted:

If they are starting to really die then something has changed somewhere.

I would like to make the DS1 unique items marginally better than the DS2 peers, just enough for players to use them for a short while before finding something better but not over-powering so you would keep them for half the map.

It's obvious that regions overlapping others were common in Yesterhaven and wasn't a problem back then because there was no radar. In DS2 you can see these discrepancies and it also shows up with the phantom wall syndrome - which also effects Swamp Yesterhaven at high seefar hack settings.

I spent some time in the past playing around with fades and so forth, in order to control these occurrences but little success. I'll have another go but no guarantees.

I as well have seen the phenomenon where the legionnaires look as if they are dead and then stand back up as if nothing has happened. However this is not the case in this case. They remain dead. The Guard on the bridge just inside the Fallraen Front Gate never did it before but he is dead now. There were three guards near the teleport station in prior versions of the mod that would jump up as you walked toward them, like they were having a bit of a nap. They are not there now, there is only one and he does not get up to much ale or mead if you ask me. The guard in the third image behind the church never played dead in the past, and he does not get up now. If I recall correctly he moved about in a patrol pattern from pet seller to arms merchant. Might these errors be occurring do to the Minor positional changes in Fallraen that you made between version 32i and 32k?

Restarted after installing updated logic file to fix Phraks and removing my mod that used Kelti's template

Utraean Peninsula SE 32K

Broken World AllSaves

Monster Level Adjust Status LOCAL

See Far Hack On

Save Location

Meren (Town of)

Quest Log

Primary Quests – Elddim Townstone, Crystwind Townstone, Fallraen Townstone

Secondary Quests – Farmer's Scythe, New Way to Travel, Orchard Cellar, Hovart's Folly, Travel to Crystwind, Dwarven Secrets, Travel to Fallraen, Fallraen Barracks, Travel to Meren, Dornek's Quarry, Pirates of Meren.

Comments, Fixes That Work, Errors, Problems

1. Radar looks good

2. Monsters leveling correctly

3. Quests completing correctly.

4. No Hiring problems

5. Elevator Ancient Temple Entrance – Party must be in mirror mode to get all 6 party members to board it, otherwise they get on and then run away before it moves.

6. Entrance to Sulfur Tunnels from Dornek's Quarry is now functioning correctly, as is the quest and portal back to Ancient Temple Exit and Dornek.

7. Quest Arrow through Crystal Caverns working correctly.

8. Verified that Legionnaires in Fallraen do not return to life. They are dead dead and not just mostly dead. (Monty Python Quote)

Party Members

Kylee Level 34 Sharpshooter

Tiahna Level 34 Sharpshooter

Xavier Level 34 Sharpshooter

Arisu Level 34 Magus

Ivlisar Level 34 Magus

Briahra Level 33 Magus

Converted DS1 items in general are way better than their DS2 peers. Whether the base stats are broadly in line with DS2's own items (at the same level requirement) I cannot say; it would take work to uncover the base stats. What I have noticed is the extra inherent enchantments on nearly all converted items. Since they take pcontent as well this makes almost every converted item equivalent to a DS2 rare item.

DS2 rare item - 3 enchantments from "rare" prefix + 1 from suffix = 4
converted item - 2 inherent enchantments + 1 prefix + 1 suffix = 4

Then if the converted item should get a "rare" prefix itself ...

Furthermore the enchantments can reinforce - a converted armor with an enchantment for +40% to armor (say) can take the pcontent prefix for another +big% on top.

(Adding the +big% pcontent boosts in DS2 is in any case one of the things I wish GPG hadn't done - swamps the advantages of anything else.)

other matters - Yesterhaven

other matters - Falraen barracks

Secondly the quest completing when it should not. In practice this could happen due to two ways DS2 differs from DS1 - mini-bosses have a more pronounced role (I've found), and players can get an automatic free one-way teleport to visit the, er-hm, undertaker (not something bare_elf would do). The triggered trigger cannot tell the difference between a departing party and a re-entering one (something I discovered in the Flooded Sanctuary but it applies here too).

A foolproof set of triggers to prove a party has been all the way round could be designed - I think I could do so - if the DS2 engine - which I don't know enough about here - provides for enduring multi-shot triggers capable of behaviour contingent on testing other things themselves capable of being flipped on and off repeatedly. But this is a side quest not worth too much of iryan's time and energy. Perhaps, though, reposition the dungeon's mini-boss Golem over the half-way-round trigger point. At least then a party that chickens out at the mere sight of the thing won't have triggered anything, so no undeserved credit.

1. Iryan, the Dwarf was level 8 with the Heartwood Cudgel witch is a low-level Unique as
well a a Dryad Sword with +10% damage and 5% Health Steal. Suggest making the Axe
similar to the Assassin's Kiss Dagger

2. CONFIRMED: fully mature Noricks Dog and Dire Wolf Emanations open/break containers and
chests.

3. Two different Full Axe's

4. This was a funny one-time glitch

The skeleton on the wall he turned the to late upon approaching the wall and ended up on top of the wall :woot:

Further notices concerning the/my translation mod pack :

-the translation for at least one dialogue just before entering Wesrin Cross (Naidi's dialogue I've noticed) is missing (I probably missed that one) (will need to look at later)
-some typos errors/mistakes and wierd characters replacing some é è à ù â ê û î ô (they are my own doing) (will need to be corrected later)
- will need to do some audio edition convertion for Norrick , Kroduk , Andiemus and Rhut dialogues later

Restarted after installing updated logic file to fix Phraks and removing my mod that used Kelti's template

Utraean Peninsula SE 32K

Broken World AllSaves

Monster Level Adjust Status LOCAL

See Far Hack On

Save Location

Lang (Town of)

Quest Log

Primary Quests – Elddim Townstone, Crystwind Townstone, Fallraen Townstone, Meren Townstone

Secondary Quests – Farmer's Scythe, New Way to Travel, Orchard Cellar, Hovart's Folly, Travel to Crystwind, Dwarven Secrets, Travel to Fallraen, Fallraen Barracks, Travel to Meren, Dornek's Quarry, Pirates of Meren, Confront Bandit Boss, Travel to Lang.

Comments, Fixes That Work, Errors, Problems

1. Radar looks good

2. Monsters leveling correctly

3. Quests completing correctly.

4. No Hiring problems

5. Quest arrow through Lang Mire working great.

6. Radar from Meren to Lang looks correct to me.

7. Replaced Ivlisar with Sheba

8. What is this in the sky of Lang?

Party Members

Kylee Level 37 Sharpshooter

Tiahna Level 37 Sharpshooter

Xavier Level 37 Sharpshooter

Arisu Level 37 Magus

Sheba Level 36 Magus

Briahra Level 36 Magus

Just in case, there are the assets from the french version of Dungeon Siege :

http://www.4shared.com/file/1s-ncw3gba/dscore-text.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/-Kx1PpJGba/Expansion_DS1_French.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/6hpTEeXTce/ExpVoices_DS1_French.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/_has_wkwba/Objects_DS1_French.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/lPUnbkPgce/Sound_DS1_French.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/8J3kwA4lba/Terrain_DS1_French.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/4MlHP5Taba/Voices_DS1_French.html

Please note however that I'm not going to download the files off 4shared. I tried but just got a suspicious looking exe file which I deleted. Clicking anything else results in annoying popups & offers to install various crap.

Why not try something like Mega.nz? https://mega.nz/
That was where I just downloaded the dungeon siege language packs a couple of days ago, it's fast & most importantly, easy to find the download and even more most importantly doesn't try to push unwanted crap onto you.

Send me your email by mp and you will have a safe and efficient way to download it !

Conquer the Pit of Despair Quest.

Busy Hunting for the skulls so I can open the door to the second level dungeon. I have found 2 but the third is eluding me. I notice that the maze in the first level dungeon is now in three colors. Green, Red and blue. From this I am assuming that there is a scull associated with each color. Wish I could remember where I was when I found the first two yesterday. I wonder if all the skin will rot off my bones and my eyes will fall out. Then there will be two skeletons living in the pit of despair. Once I get out of this hole I will continue my normal reports.

2.2, All*Saves v2, Mod Logic Beta32k, Yesterhaven Beta32j, MLA Beta5r now at All + monster-adjust-declared

Hero's levels (which I expect would all have been higher if the party had been on MLA-all ever since starting at 3):

• 13 entering Haunted Forest
• 15 entering Valley of the Dead
• 16 entering Broken Catacombs
• 17 immediately after entering Halls of the Dead
• 19 against the final boss (Lich King).

Most monsters for the Act adjust from level 8 (Skeletons and Skeleton Archers, Yellow Spiders, Arakun Spiders, Mucosas and Vile Mucosas). Most of them feature all through the Act. Skeleton Guards (all through) are level 10, Walking Corpses and Tortured Corpses (from Valley of the Dead onwards) level 11. With MLA destroying the distinctions between levels they need different stats. I didn't stop to compare and haven't checked the templates, but for example if skeletons be melee_weak (or _minor) then Guards melee_normal, Walking Corpses melee_strong and Tortured ones (the slow crawlers) melee_strong_tank. Spiders _trivial for Yellow, _weak for Arakun, etc. Without MLA the spread of levels is small enough to be OK if they were right, including for Rectors level 12 (Halls of the Dead only), but Dark Mucosas (ditto) at level 16 are an anomaly (the only ones nearly in step with my party level!)

+++EDIT+++ Bestiary shows Dark Mucosa as 11. My mistake or its?

Lich King boss is suitably challenging (MLA raised it for me from level 15 to 18). It summons level 28 bone minions (one at a time). Toned down for me by MLA, these did not use a secondary magic attack as bone minions in the wild are wont to do and died much more quickly - good job, as proper bone minions on top of the boss would have been too much.

Quests

Party does not have to fight the boss at all because doors at the back at not locked. They should be until the Lich King is beaten.

That apart, quest mechanics all work, but I did not test what would happen if I'd gone on to the Halls of the Dead without having spoken to Gwendolyn to get the next quest. Suggest Gwendolyn be made to leave after being spoken to, since we know DS2 can do this which DS1 could not. (For that reason, and because quests are being revised, I did not check what she'd say if spoken to again.)

I mentioned before that there are two extraneous quest arrows in this Act. One definitely points at where one confronted the snow queen, and the other somewhere further away slightly north of west. They tend to merge into one as party gets further east from town, and separate again returning through the final dungeon. The real arrow is good enough - it doesn't matter that as one approaches the corner of the forest it is already pointing to the right, and that in the Halls of the Dead it leads players into short cul-de-sacs once or twice. The one problem is that arrow towards Gwendolyn disappears as party in the swamp comes over her head, a little way before the relevant catacomb entrance.

The second catacomb entrance has a silver radar star (for the quest from Redric) but the first does not. Gwendolyn's quest should break down into four tasks revealed one by one - follow the trail, investigate the catacomb (first entrance), find another entrance (the second), investigate it - but also allow for players carelessly or deliberately going straight to the second entrance (i.e. activate tasks when completing them in case they hadn't been activated already). I'd be happy with this as a secondary quest (but essential for further progress, to account for her presence in Act III?), and ending the plague of undead as the act's only primary, with its first task, find the source, pointed at Halls entrance.

(At the start of the Act, discovering what is going on then clearing the town and houses of the spiders and skeletons already there covers a small enough area not to need an arrow and hence could also be secondary.)

Some rooms in the catacombs, including the one Gwendolyn is in, are visible through the rock too soon, e.g. as one goes down the first entrance stairs. This with see-far hack off. The complicated stack of rooms making up the multi-level Halls of the Dead work wells both by sight and on radar.

I noticed that the swamp teleport has actually replaced Dante.

Trivia

Bestiary is complete (except for Summoned minion).

Y32j#24. Both Rho Kellan (smith) and the mayor's wife (innkeeper) are scarecrows after reload of haunted town (I'd gone back for a shopping trip some time after my reload).

Y32j#25. A stone table/counter underneath a tapestry in a small side chamber, early in the Halls of the Dead, is an illusion that characters can stand inside. LL_05_UC -3.591/0.000/0.972 0x1D80F0B2

One of the skulls branches off near the very start while the other two are reached further along by following the path to the locked door (this path is lit by white and also by phoenix symbols on the floor). These other two skulls are very close together.

If all else fails the maps of the Pit of Despair on-line should work just as good as they did for DS1.

Dante is gone and instead a NIS shows the obelisk and ruins and strongly hints that you must examine the obelisk. All of the minor problems with Snowy Yesterhaven should be fixed.

I'm slowly getting through all of this and as a result the map should be even more fun to play. Thanks for yours and everybody else's feedback.

The one thing funnier than a skelly going up the wall like that is the ??? thief doing so with your treasure. This can happen just as easily in other rooms where there are webs down from wall tops.

The only place of interest you cannot find that way is one treasure chest in the middle of an "island".

Except that the darkness makes "keep your hand on the wall" less simple than it sounds. Very easy in the area where there are two skulls to not notice the stairs (down) or one of the gaps in the walls.

I'll have to investigate further to find the cause and fix it.

This one is now fixed - definitely!

Thanks to Gemeaux333 providing the original French asset files from DS1 LOA, here's a more complete French Translation. I tried it at the start of KOE and the French voices & text were correctly displayed in the first two NIS sequences and the quest journal entries. The only thing in English was Norick's cry for help.
http://www.siegetheday.org/~iryan/files/Language_Packs/DS1_Language_Pack_French_Alpha1.ds2res (133 Mb)

The LOA art assets weren't in the Expansion.dsres Geaux333 sent me but that only leaves out a few signs. Overall its hard to estimate how much remains to be converted but it would have to be at least 30% or so for the French translation.

The rest of the text is found in dscore-text.gas which is used with the language.dll in DS1 to overwrite the text in Logic.dsres with the correct text for the user's language. Here that means that once the files for the Legendary Mod are finalized, they will have to be converted by hand. This extends to names of items, etc. in DS1_mod_logic.ds2res and quest info, etc. in the maps.

So Kingdom of Ehb and the Utraean Peninsula maps are finalized and only bug fixing remains for them. DS1_Mod_logic.ds2res unfortunately still has quite a few revisions and updates to go before its anywhere near finalized so I suggest that be left to last.

When I have time I'll post the German and Spanish partial translation files as well.

 
Generally it's great that you tried to give the Soldiers the former DS1 look - it's much trickier than most people may think. Several technical properties/values depend on each other, numerous setting affect their visial appreance that finally should fit in-game...

However I took a closer look yesterday evening, your current 'chain of template specialization' is:
npc ==> base_npc_male_combative_ds1 ==> ds1_fb_legionaire_0#_guard

But nowhere are any life points assigned (sadly 'npc' doesn't do it neither), something custom components or the game itself can't handle - as if born/loaded dead with zero life points! So you should add max_life/life assignments urgently.

Unless you want to re-define everything, it would be easier/shorter perhaps to use the template 'base_militia_windstone_hm' instead of 'npc' to specialize template 'base_npc_male_combative_ds1' from.
Only care then in a first step about the body anims, aspect:model/textures and inventory:custom_head.

 
Other things noted:

• in 'monster_skill_manager.skrit' there is a ending bracket missing in line 49.
  
• Something in Fallraen tries to set an invalid start position. As far as i know, there is only the expanded/custom stash, a custom and a regular trigger that can perform this action.
  
• It seems in Elddim some Flicks try to give [mind]-less actors/roles a guarding job - still rather harmless but throws up dozens of skrit errors within a minute.
  
• There are numerous invalid DS1 properties still in the templates. Just log filling too but perhaps some DS1=>DS2 content won't work as intended.


• If you don't want the slow-motion run for soldiers, use this for [chore_walk]:

  		[chore_walk]	// assumed there is fs9+fs10
  		{
  			chore_stances = 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10;
  			skrit = select_walk_run_simple;
  			[anim_files]
  			{
  				00 = rl;
  				run0 = rl;
  				walk = wl;
  				jump = jmp;
  			}
  		}
  

  Like this the Soldier will be able to walk and to run depending on the currently assigned speed. So no need to change/lower the run speed in the template, you could do this is a custom (patroling) flick when needed, also the fidgeting job will re-set it automatically for the time the actor is menandering around.

By the way, I like the intro NIS around/through Elddim!

Getting rid of things generating error messages, even if they seem harmless at the time, are always welcomed for stability and that's always a good thing.

Reached Glacern and one of the soldiers was dead as well as the first 2 across the bridge. After shopping, grabbing a book from the house, visiting the back gate, getting Loyyd's ring and the smith. Going to the tower to get the other book all three guards were ALIVE :silly:

Leveling, MLA still Local
Stonebridge: 7
Tower with Ordus Axe: 8
Wesrin: 9/8
1st DC: 11
2nd DC: 12/13
Glitterdelve: 15 ,Added Gloern as fifth character
1st DC: 16
Miners Haven: 17, Monsters now consistently 2 levels above main character
3rd DC:18
Mine Exit: 19
Glacern 20.9

With Mod-DS1Content_Alpha11a, the legionnaires are quite fine when you load Fallraen with a new character.

Starting Fallraen with one of the pre-made characters from Broken World (level 39) and its a completely different situation. The legionnaires are lying on the ground, apparently dead, except they aren't. One of the tweaks I did as suggested by KillerGremal was to base their templates off one of the ones in Mod-DS1Content_Alpha11a (or Alpha10z, they're the same). This displayed their health and status. It's clearly labelled as unconscious with strangely full health.

So given enough time they will regain consciousness.

As I said I spent a lot of time mucking around with them without success, no matter what I did they stayed unconscious. In frustration I then reverted their templates to be exactly like the female legionnaires, who are unaffected. Still the same unconscious behaviour.

I then checked the map instances to see if that was causing the issues and to my surprise SE2 saved a lot of settings for the male legionnaires in their instances in the map which over-rides the ones in the templates. I haven't gone further in fixing the issue but I'm absolutely convinced that removing these extra settings in the instances will fix the problem.

So every region in all of the maps which has male legionnaires in it will need to be checked and altered to remove this strange behaviour as unfortunately its just not a quick logic fix.

UPDATE#
The problem will now be fixed as for some peculiar reason Siege Editor 2 places the line "life_state = unconscious;" into the aspect block of the instances in the map! So the game was putting them into an unconscious state as they were loaded into the frustrum.