DS1 Legendary Mod for DS2 Beta Thread

@DrakeIsGod: These colored pots will produce a (temporary) landmark if you drop them out of your inventory, possibly helpful in the Pit of Despair or the desert around Grescal for example.

That would be what the developers would tell you but in actuality this was one of the first quests I ever did and its implementation is a bit dodgy (it checks to see whether the quest Gyorn gives you is present rather than checking the Ordus quest). I could probably fix it to be a little less quirky.

New dialog quirk with Lordan in LoA. I recruited Lordan then as usual, I summoned a Town Portal to go get better spells and equipment. while moving to go down to the smith I got his dialog that is supposed to occur after killing the giant

These levers still can't be reached

When you click on this one, your character runs out of the doorway, but the lever doesn't react

I tested them in multiplayer as well

I often get to a point where I'm in need of potions, so I summon a town a portal when I run out so I can get some more. However the shopkeepers only have an infinite amount of small and regular potions, and I often need large potions or higher but they usually run out of stock really fast. Might I suggest that shopkeepers have an infinite supply of all potions? I get to a point where certain potions don't do the trick anymore lol, it could help to balance gameplay in the long run

I wonder if this lever could be marked multiplayer only?

The second lever will bring the elevator back up if you happen to end up going back that way again after using the elevator, again probably mostly for multiplayer though if somebody used a town portal or forgot to activate the session portal and died, they may end up going back through this area from a saved game.

GPG obviously thought that was the best place to put the lever but maybe it could be repositioned closer to the elevator itself.

I was wondering if it was alright to upload gameplay footage with this mod to Youtube, is that alright? It could be a bit helpful to you guys, and I could probably even advertise this mod if you want

Another idea, if you're interested, about where to put videos is the Legendary Mod page at ModDB
http://www.moddb.com/mods/dungeon-siege-legendary-pack
So far there's only a few images that I've posted but I believe anyone can upload images or videos to the individual mod pages if they're members.

On a side note I plan on adding Siege Editor 2 to ModDB and get them to open a Dungeon Siege 2 page to accommodate it (as Siege Editor 2 really is only useful for DS2). It's strange that there's no DS2 page there only the Broken World one. And the only mods there are the ones I've uploaded.

With the Videos, they will be useful in highlighting things about the mod that are either bugs or need improving.

Here's my second video, I had an interesting dilemma around the end of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puk16MaiA5s
I checked out the ModDB page, you might wanna upload a new version of the mod lol. I'm gonna get right on uploading the videos there

EDIT: Actually it won't let me upload them as videos to be displayed, I can only upload them as downloads, meaning people would have to download over 300-600 MB just to see the video. However, you can probably get the links from my videos and post the link or embed url under the mod. I probably have to wait 7 days to do anything worthwhile on that site anyway since I just created an account, though I posted a reply to a comment on the mod that provides a link to here (it wouldn't let me post an actual comment with a link in it until 7 days lol.)

 
But something looks a bit strange - the rather/extreme low amount of life points.
With a 1-man-party monsters with level 3 have 20-40 life points usually, in the video larger monsters like Krugs or Turkeys often don't reach 10 life points at level 3. For example the Krug mages at ~14:20 have even 6 life points only! :o
Possible too there's something broken in the Level Adjustment mod, however 2-3x less life is quite far away from the gameplay experience on the original DS2 map...

This was done as part of rebalancing the start so that the player who begins a new game has a chance of getting through it by themselves. By removing the pets at the start it is now more like the original where the earlier monsters are pushovers and only start getting tougher after Stonebridge.

The monsters were just too tough in the previous version to play it alone, especially if you're a melee player. Even with trivial monsters you do need to use a lot of potions to get through. I do realise that if you play the map with an established party, it would be extremely easy until after Stonebridge.

The only thing that doesn't seem to be working properly in the Level Adjustment Mod is the line which is suppose to add extra monsters for each additional character in the party. I'm not 100% certain as I wasn't testing for it but for LOA I tried using it to add extra monsters to the map as the LOA map is vastly less populated than the GPG ones, however it didn't seem to make any difference. I used a setting of 10, which I assume adds 10% more monsters for each additional character?

A quirk in the earlier part of Kingdom of Ehb, which has been mentioned before, is that around Edgaar's cabin the monsters have the same level as near the start (around level 1) because the map is shaped like a horseshoe and the monsters and all other objects and terrain near Edgaar's cabin are loaded when you reach the first bridge. This does occur in other places as well but it's more pronounced here because the player gains a few levels quickly at the start - a little slower than before since the monsters are trivial base but still enough to be apparent.

I think from memory there's a setting in the Level Adjustment Mod that can be used to boost individual monster's levels from the base. If so I'll use this for some of these quirky monsters so that level progression is better.

Oddity

In the tower where you get Ordus's axe, the archer on the platforms arrows are not traveling past the edge of the plarform

If you select an elevator in Siege Editor you will notice it selects a very high rectangular node. The sides of this rectangular node has alpha channels so they are invisible ingame just like the dripping ponds nodes.

So this is an unfixable bug. The best I can do is to reposition the monsters further back into the side rooms so the player will have to move off the elevator to engage them.

Yes the elevator down to Ordus' axe has invisible walls, so that the Krug at the bottom don't even see the party arriving and so don't react until someone moves off. And yes, this was GPG's bug in the DS1 original Ehb. Why then did no other elevators (or sidewise moving platforms) have this "feature"? Not the ones in Glitterdelve, nor in the Goblin caves. Not even the one, apparently identical to the problematic one, up out of Wesrin Cross to the bottom of another watch tower, where Krug Dogs react without the party having to step off the platform. (How does that play in the Legendary Mod?)

As for the water drips node problem, I have thought about simply replacing them with normal pool nodes and use water drips effects as a replacement but the one I experimented with seemed rather plain and hardly noticeable in a test map. However when play testing LOA I found a similar water effect that was quite convincing and would be a suitable replacement - if I can track it down and find out how it was set up.

Here's what the problematic elevator node looks like in Siege Editor 2.

The wall is quite apparent and the way it works is that it fades out as the elevator lowers down into the area. Obviously this can cause issues in a small space like this. In the Wesrin Cross example in the Legendary Mod, the krug dogs and krug on the upper levels actually don't react until you move off the elevator.

I believe it would be extremely tricky messing with the elevator in case something breaks so what I did was to move the krug away from the elevator into the back of the side rooms. I believe this will lessen the chances of the quirk with the elevator becoming apparent, at least in the majority of cases.

Actually it would be nice if there was a page here at SiegetheDay where video links could be displayed. Any comments or suggestions on this?

To answer your question about the latest version being there, I've been waiting for any reports of major problems before uploading it but will probably do so in the next week or so.

In the meantime here's a partial update for Kingdom of Ehb incorporating all of the fixes and suggestions posted since release of Beta 30 including the repositioning of the Krug in the elevator just mentioned today.
http://www.siegetheday.org/~iryan/files/Betav30a/DS1_Map_World_Beta30a.ds2res
http://www.siegetheday.org/~iryan/files/Betav30a/DS1_Mod_Logic_Beta30a.ds2res

EDIT: Your second video was nice also. I agree that the inventory freeze is probably caused by the expanded inventory mod as I don't use one and never had a freeze.

With the ranged gargoyle attack there's nothing in the templates that should make them so fast but just in case I added a reload_delay of 1 to the their throwing weapon as the default for all evil monsters' throwing weapons is 0. This is because the actors animations is suppose to slow down their rate of attack but doesn't seem to be working with the gargoyles as their animation delay is actually set quite slow at 2.0

Another quirk which your video reinforced to me as I've forgotten about it is that the gargoyles and skeletons are now weak to death magic and melee attacks when they're still suppose to be strong against them. I believe it's because the variants you're fighting in the crypts inherit from base_actor_evil_trivial and this has an effect on their resistances but only KillerGremal would know for sure.

I suppose I could remove all resistances from these variants or just leave them as they are.

Hi,
Game mods used: Legendary beta30, Aranna legacy alpha 3r and Ancient Gift beta 1b.

Texture bug in DS2 caused by Legendary Mod (almost sure), had to remove it completly to have the good texture back.

Not sure if it's the good place but We are experiencing crashes in multiplayer this days. They are purely random and i can't find an obvious reason. However i suspect a conflict between Monster lvl ajustment and Aranna Legacy. When playing DS2 default campaign with aranna legacy and keeping all Lengendary files without Monster lvl ajustement we were able to play around 1 hour of play test (sems working). The only bug we faced is that Nawl Beast, supposed to be around lvl 8 at the begining of DS2, were lvl 53 i.e. the lvl of our characters. It seems like Aranna Legacy alone adjust the lvl for no reason or cause a weird bug.

Edit: we finaly figured what caused the game crashes. It looks like it was a bowstring of a crossbow that causes a graphic glitch.

Mantella

Other then that elevator, I've made it to Glacern with almost everything running great. The exploding barrels in Gliterdelve that detonate wat ahead of you on occasion are a minor annoyance

Here is video number 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGGgSBnb0go