So, about elys succubus mod

Elys succubus manager has some improvements besides her/his new races. But as the mod add those races some other mods become incompatible. So I want to know if there's a way to edit her/his mod so to remove those races and use the multiplayer improvements

Thanks again <3

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I've downloaded this one, is this the one u're talking about @Iryan?

http://elys-ds2-succubus-manager.software.informer.com/

And as u're already here, what I could use to edit the atributes and description for Utraean race? Here it shows as human and is bugging me a little ><"

Thanks <3

i have v10 of succubus manager cant remember if there is a newer or not and Elys gave up her site, so wont be finding it there anymore. She says hi! I play Swtor with her so talk to her most days.

Darkelf wrote:

i have v10 of succubus manager cant remember if there is a newer or not and Elys gave up her site, so wont be finding it there anymore. She says hi! I play Swtor with her so talk to her most days.

Darkelf as far as I can remember version 10 was the last released version of the mod.

I updated the link for the file you uploaded so others can down load it.

I see what you mean about the race description for the Utraeans, they are just a copy of the humans. The info you need to edit is found in race_descriptions.gas found in world\global\ui folder of the mod.
Look under the section marked Utraean. You can also edit the racial bonuses but these are only descriptions. You would also need to edit the utraean_ds2.gas found in world\contentdb\templates\actors\good\Loa folder.
Good bonuses to give them would be something like intelligence 14 or 15, strength maybe 8, faster mana recovery, etc.

iryan wrote:

I see what you mean about the race description for the Utraeans, they are just a copy of the humans. The info you need to edit is found in race_descriptions.gas found in world\global\ui folder of the mod.
Look under the section marked Utraean. You can also edit the racial bonuses but these are only descriptions. You would also need to edit the utraean_ds2.gas found in world\contentdb\templates\actors\good\Loa folder.
Good bonuses to give them would be something like intelligence 14 or 15, strength maybe 8, faster mana recovery, etc.

So what tool i use to doo it ><?

Hey Guys, expecially Bare_elf and Iryan who helped me with this, I finally made those changes for the Utraean race and made an description, so do tell me what do you think about it ><, and I would like to know if I have the permission to post the modified mod for the community, and if yes, if I post it as Iryan creation or mine with credits, although it IS Iryan creation

The description

Racial Bonus:
5 Unspent Skill Points
-5 Strength
-5 Dexterity
+10 Intelligence
+30% Mana Recovery
+20% Chance to Find Magic Items

"Native to their Peninsula, the Utraeans are a race possessing the greatest technological and magical knowledge once known in all of Aranna despite their lack on physical.

Because of the war with their creations and former slaves, some of those techs were lost in time and made some of the Utraean flee to other parts of the world. Though nearly extinct nowadays and by most even forgotten to the point of unrecognition, they once had a civilization greater than that of the Empire of Stars.

Utraeans are reserved with other races but yet a lot curious about them and the world in general, pushing on with all the risks this curiosity may bring."

Oh yeah, and the tools are working flawless on Windows 10 Bare_elf o/

Really thanks for helping me <3

Hey Guys, expecially Bare_elf and Iryan who helped me with this, I finally made those changes for the Utraean race and made an description, so do tell me what do you think about it ><, and I would like to know if I have the permission to post the modified mod for the community, and if yes, if I post it as Iryan creation or mine with credits, although it IS Iryan creation

The description

Racial Bonus:
5 Unspent Skill Points
-5 Strength
-5 Dexterity
+10 Intelligence
+30% Mana Recovery
+20% Chance to Find Magic Items

"Native to their Peninsula, the Utraeans are a race possessing the greatest technological and magical knowledge once known in all of Aranna despite their lack on physical.

Because of the war with their creations and former slaves, some of those techs were lost in time and made some of the Utraean flee to other parts of the world. Though nearly extinct nowadays and by most even forgotten to the point of unrecognition, they once had a civilization greater than that of the Empire of Stars.

Utraeans are reserved with other races but yet a lot curious about them and the world in general, pushing on with all the risks this curiosity may bring."

Oh yeah, and the tools are working flawless on Windows 10 Bare_elf o/

Really thanks for helping me <3

More power to you for learning how to do this chaoruge, and have fun playing Utraeans your way in your own games. Maybe this is the norm for playable character mods (I wouldn't know), but the stats you and iryan have come up with between you look to me like an early-game demi-god race. Easy to see how Utraeans built the most powerful empire in Aranna.

The 4 base races (in 2.2) come with relatively little differentiation. Just 2 bonus skill points (fixed except for humans') and a net +4 to attributes, with the best positive the half-giant's +6 to strength and the worst negatives -2. The other racial bonuses (+10% magic item find, +10% death magic resistance, +5% health or mana recovery) are in line with enchantments on low-level items.

Compared to that, chance to find magic items twice as good as a human's and mana recovery way better than an elf's, big boost to intelligence and freedom to put 5 points anywhere - e.g. choose combat magic as career path, get to level 1 (needed to unlock skills) then immediately put +6 to Devastation. Who'd choose to play an elf mage any more?

How about yes to more extra skill points but where they'd need a higher level to unlock? Say +1 to Devastation for starter then +2 to Summon Fortitude (given the Utraeans' history of exploiting creatures). Distinctive without being overly advantageous.

"Native to their Peninsula"? What is the consensus on Utraean history? Wasn't the peninsula a sort of "New Utrae" (where they expanding in one direction collided with the Empire of Stars coming from another, with the present inhabitants of the Peninsula being heirs to the latter's perspective) and Island of Utrae their homeland?

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The 4 base races (in 2.2) come with relatively little differentiation. Just 2 bonus skill points (fixed except for humans') and a net +4 to attributes, with the best positive the half-giant's +6 to strength and the worst negatives -2. The other racial bonuses (+10% magic item find, +10% death magic resistance, +5% health or mana recovery) are in line with enchantments on low-level items.

Compared to that, chance to find magic items twice as good as a human's and mana recovery way better than an elf's, big boost to intelligence and freedom to put 5 points anywhere - e.g. choose combat magic as career path, get to level 1 (needed to unlock skills) then immediately put +6 to Devastation. Who'd choose to play an elf mage any more?
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RSimpkinuk57 wrote:

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The 4 base races (in 2.2) come with relatively little differentiation. Just 2 bonus skill points (fixed except for humans') and a net +4 to attributes, with the best positive the half-giant's +6 to strength and the worst negatives -2. The other racial bonuses (+10% magic item find, +10% death magic resistance, +5% health or mana recovery) are in line with enchantments on low-level items.

Compared to that, chance to find magic items twice as good as a human's and mana recovery way better than an elf's, big boost to intelligence and freedom to put 5 points anywhere - e.g. choose combat magic as career path, get to level 1 (needed to unlock skills) then immediately put +6 to Devastation. Who'd choose to play an elf mage any more?
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Thanks for mentioning GPG's base settings and for asking this question at the end.

Skill points - spend or unspent - at the beginning of the game (when you are low-levelled) have an extreme impact on the perception of the game difficulty.
Already a 3rd skill point (compared to the 2 skill points GPG's races have) would be a remarkabale 'gameplay easement'. But respecting once how GPG designed their races it perhaps would be OK as 'extra race bonus' (so here instead of magic find and mana recovery bonus) - how to introduce a 4th skill point in this 'balancing scope' I don't know, a 5th would break it for sure (assumed you like to keep it balanced).

 
If a magically focused skill preset is needed, what about spending 'only' 2 skill points as GPG did, 1 on 'Quickened Casting' and 1 on 'Arcane Renewal' for example?
Even without extra bonuses like MF or mana recovery such a (high requirements bypassing) skill preset alone would be quite exclusive already.

 
Generally, for all new content it would be cool if it would offer something new that still fits to the game, type- and balance-wise.

Of course the possibilties that DS2 offers by default are limited, but ignoring this for a moment, I would suggest here something like '20% magical pain reflected' (very similar to the existing bonus reflecting melee+ranged danage/pain) - if needed/interested I could help you with that.
However this would be a very decent bonus, rather having an individual mage race/type in mind than an 'universal mage' with skill points for free and copying/claiming the race specific bonuses from Elves and Humans.