DS1 Legendary Mod for DS2 Beta Thread

Kingdom of Ehb 32K

Broken World AllSaves

Monster Level Adjust Status LOCAL

See Far Hack On

Save Location

Stonebridge

Quest Log

Primary Quests – Seek Gyorn in Stonebridge,

Secondary Quests – Clear Edgaar's Basement, Skrubb the Beach Clean,

Comments, Fixes That Work, Errors, Problems

1.Radar looks good

2.Monsters leveling correctly

3.Quests completing correctly.

4.No Hiring problems

5.Lesser Ice Bolt Spell, funny that I never noticed before but you get the effect and then the casting motion.

6.So Far everything looks very clean.

Party Members

Addicyn Level 10 Archer

Naidi Level 9 Archer

Ulora Level 9 Hedge Wizard

Zed Level 9 Theurgist

Dog Level 10 Soldier

Regardless everything is working now and better than before. Nobody had remarked on it but the male legionnaires that had a shield were holding it incorrectly. Now they hold it correctly. Plus I've updated both the male and female legionnaires to specialize from Mod-DS1Content_Alpha11a so they now share the same abilities as does the combative actors from that content pack.

I've also found the missing bracket in monster_skill_manager (cloned as you probably guessed from skill_manager for party members) and the invalid start in Fallraen (a different id from your Utraean Peninsula map for compatibility reasons but in Fallraen I missed updating the stash's starting position).

Yes I'm aware of the numerous invalid properties reported in the logs but this covers some new properties as well that definitely do work in the game (at least in Broken World).

the legionnaires that had played dead are now missing.

Thea roving patrol outside the Glacern exit, a couple run wierdly and keep falling down

Level 22 at Alpine Caverns with Monsters level 24/25

who cannot figure out why in KOE his party falls well behind An Elf's party in Levels even thou we both kill everything

Kingdom of Ehb 32K

Broken World AllSaves

Monster Level Adjust Status LOCAL

See Far Hack On

Save Location

Wesrin Cross Inner Keep D.C.

Quest Log

Primary Quests – Seek Gyorn in Stonebridge,

Secondary Quests – Clear Edgaar's Basement, Skrubb the Beach Clean, Find Ordus' Axe,

Comments, Fixes That Work, Errors, Problems

1.Radar looks good

2.Monsters leveling correctly

3.Quests completing correctly.

4.No Hiring problems

5.So Far everything looks very clean.

Party Members

Addicyn Level 13 Marksman

Naidi Level 13 Marksman

Ulora Level 13 Wizard

Zed Level 13 Shaman

Dog Level 13 Warrior

Yes my Utraean Peninsula 32K Party is still lost on the first level of the Pit of Despair looking for the third skull. We have started loosing eyes and our skin is falling off. But will stay here until the quest is done. It has only been about an hour a night but it seems like years. I would almost be willing to buy a skull from a skull vendor, but as yet have not found any grave robbers or organ traffickers in the game. Oh I know maps where I could find skulls but that would be cheating. So we will keep searching, keep your fingers crossed, no on second thought if you did that you could not type and I would think the site was broken.

@bare_elf: If you can't remember the way where you came from,
you could drop a color pot the next time to leave a mark on the ground. :idea:

Restarted after installing updated logic file to fix Phraks and removing my mod that used Kelti's template

Utraean Peninsula SE 32K

Broken World AllSaves

Monster Level Adjust Status LOCAL

See Far Hack On

Save Location

Redwood Gap Direct Connect

Quest Log

Primary Quests – Elddim Townstone, Crystwind Townstone, Fallraen Townstone, Meren Townstone, Lang Townstone,

Secondary Quests – Farmer's Scythe, New Way to Travel, Orchard Cellar, Hovart's Folly, Travel to Crystwind, Dwarven Secrets, Travel to Fallraen, Fallraen Barracks, Travel to Meren, Dornek's Quarry, Pirates of Meren, Confront Bandit Boss, Travel to Lang, Conquer the Pit of Despair.

Comments, Fixes That Work, Errors, Problems

1. Do the Skulls and Lost Artifacts have any use later in the game? If not could they not disappear from inventory once used?

2. Monsters leveling correctly

3. Quests completing correctly.

4. No Hiring problems

5. Conquer the Pit of Despair Quest. Very hard but not impossible, thanks to KillerGremal and his color pots. Great Quest now Iryan.

6. Radar to Redwood Gap including Pit of Despair and Flooded Sanctuary looks great

7. Flood Sanctuary Quest working much better but level one and level four do not complete until you are exiting the Sanctuary.

Party Members

Kylee Level 41 Sharpshooter

Tiahna Level 41 Sharpshooter

Xavier Level 40 Sharpshooter

Arisu Level 41 Magus

Sheba Level 40 Magus

Briahra Level 40 Magus

So, awhile back I said All*Saves is no longer necessary, and if I remember all of the details right... I was wrong.

The patch to allow access to BW obviously does what it's supposed to do, but the save problem still persists, and All*Saves doesn't work. However, there is a SUPER easy fix to this. Seriously, if you can install mods, you can probably make All*Saves work.

Literally all you have to do is make sure All*Saves is put into your gamefile on Steam, which for most would be C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapp\common\Dungeon Siege 2. If you want, you can change the target of the executable to this, but it's probably easier to just make a shortcut and drop it onto your desktop. With that, All*Saves is completely working with Steam.

https://youtu.be/fqRRFSiHmyM

Yeah... I don't know. I've yet to see if I missed anything, but I'm honestly pretty sure I didn't somehow miss anything.

(I'm on a new monitor, 16:9, replacing the last surviving peripheral from my original system.)

2.2, All*Saves v2, Mod Logic Beta32k, Yesterhaven Beta32j, MLA Beta5r now at All + monster-adjust-declared
NB still using Content Pack Alpha 10z

Hero's levels (which I expect would all have been higher if, after starting at 3, I'd played Act I on MLA-All instead of Local):

• 19 entering the canyon
• 21 starting up the mountain steppes
• 22 just after entering the mountain
• 24 just after entering the Citadel of Ash; and at finish.

The story suffers by not showing the Snow Queen and Fire King in ordinary mortal forms after their respective defeats. The way GPG originally had it reinforced their explanation of why the Fire King went bad. (He was dwarf, she human because those were the only races GPG had to work with then. Now she could equally well be made an elf - but not a dryad, please, because as I interpret the allusions to empire, their and Dante's master must have lived in Zaramoth's time or before, pre-dating the first dryads.)

It isn't clear who is speaking the typed convo underneath the last NIS on the way to the surface. ("I pledge to undo what I have done, and uphold my stewardship" etc) I'll have to check back in DS1 but this seems not a continuation of what Dante said when receiving the chalice, but something the Fire King could have said.

I had the same problem in the Citadel that bare_elf did - upper floor blocks camera vision, only way to see the party when it is on the ground floor is to zoom in close. (This with All*Saves v2, see-far hack off.) Somewhere going round the ground floor I lost the quest radar star without getting back the arrow.

The Fire King is no push-over, but my healer easily kept up with his slow attacks on one party member at a time, so my impression is that the Lich King (with his summoned minion) was a riskier battle.

Quests. I deliberately did not collect the quests from the mayor (except by town portal after the King but before Dante) so my only arrow was for the Chalice quest. Nowhere was I stopped by not having the missing quests. The trigger that should tick complete the first secondary (find the mountain) did not activate it, but the second secondary (find the citadel) was auto-activated.

It would give players a bit more background understanding if speaking to Redric for his info about the Chalice could be integrated somehow into the quest from the Undead Master's tomb.

Trivia

Teleport and stash have moved again, as I rather expected - hot town has them between smith's house and mayor's house. Radar no longer shows the parts of ice realm that were overhead haunted town, and the extraneous quest arrows present in Act II have gone. The mayor has returned and the captain is wearing his armor once again.

Y32j#26. Though hot town radar aligns with the direction player is looking, the compass has shifted so that the cemetery is south not east, elevator to canyon west not south, etc. Hero's-own-time ruined town at the end is the same. The new setting was consistent throughout the Act (or if it jumped anywhere within the mountain, for example, I never noticed).

Y32j#27. Radar discontinuity - cannot see across boundary between FK_01_DC and FK_02_DC (in either direction). Could this explain why the quest arrow is missing in hot town and all the way through the canyon until starting up the mountain (as bare_elf found too)?

Y32j#28. Hot town obelisk still shows convo symbol when pointed at but has no convo when clicked (which is better than the broken convo of the previous acts).

NB I know the start is being revised - it would be nice if the verse displayed when hero is transported back in time by the obelisk could be preserved for player as a journal-lore book. Ditto the concluding verse.

Y32j#29. On reload in hot town, party of four is rather spread out - so much so that hero can be beyond range of dog's buff spell.

Y32j#30. Snow Queen has convo symbol for something to say but I cannot get her to say it. I vaguely remember that in DS1 it was about having done the little she now could for the townsfolk - something like that is needed to justify Rho Kellan's remark about the well having been filled.

It would be nice if Gwendolyn could be given a shorter convo for second-and-subsequent: confine the remarks about getting back to town for first time only.

Y32j#31. Shalindra's hiring convo: "Hail stranger.would you" should be "Hail stranger. Would you" and "Amanlu" should be "Aman'lu". She lacks a distinct second-time-of-asking opening, and as with the other hireables the Deru convo is an inappropriate model for hero's responses. Shalindra's recalled-from-inn remark works. (So does Tajj's.)

Y32j#32. Party banter starting up mountain steppes: hero's response "Wonderfull" new spelling of "Wonderful".

Y32j#33. Party is on rock bridge level with the citadel roof and is about to take corner turning away from it - up comes banter "This has to be the Citadel of Ash! Where will we find the Fire King". (Should have a quest mark). Silly question because there he is in full view! (All*Saves v2, see-far hack off) (So too Dante). MLA has already adjusted him (when my hero was level 23, compared to level 24 when reaching the roof).

Y32j#34. Dante has quest-giver's yellow ! icon should be yellow ? for quest-ticker.

Y32j#35. On stone counter/table (an illusion that party members stand inside when collecting items) besides the Chalice of Mourning are a supposed "Ritual Book" and a supposed "Mage's Book" that are plain level 0 spell books.

Y32j#36. Journal quest item details for Chalice of Mourning: "mount underforge" in first para would be better capitalised ("Mount Underforge"), second para starts ".It" instead of "It" and "transends" should be "transcend" with a c (and plural: power transcends but powers transcend).

Kingdom of Ehb 32K

Broken World AllSaves

Monster Level Adjust Status LOCAL

See Far Hack On

Save Location

Town of Glacern

Quest Log

Primary Quests – Seek Gyorn in Stonebridge, Journey to the Overseer,

Secondary Quests – Clear Edgaar's Basement, Skrubb the Beach Clean, Find Ordus' Axe, A Sister's Message, Clear Glitterdelve Pass, Rescue Torg, Book Return.

Comments, Fixes That Work, Errors, Problems

1.Radar looks good

2.Monsters leveling correctly

3.Quests completing correctly.

4.No Hiring problems

5.So Far everything looks very clean.

6.More Sleeping Male Legionaries – They are drinking way way to much.

Party Members

Addicyn Level 20 Marksman

Naidi Level 19 Marksman

Ulora Level 19 Wizard

Zed Level 19 Wizard

Lorun Level 19 Scholar

Dog Level 20 Knight

I downloaded them off the main post and put them, then deleted the 'old' ones and replaced them with the available beta files.

One of the things GPG introduced with the DS2 engine was support for sky boxes as seen in many other modern 3D games. However the basic limitation of the DS2 engine in only being able to generate the actual world for about 45 or 50 game units around the party, meant that skyboxes could only have limited use within the game. I only think there's a few places within the game (like the NIS of landing on Greilyn beach where skyboxes were actually used). These areas were specifically constructed with small staging areas surrounded by rock & cliffs so that the edges of the frustrum were hidden in the NIS.

I became interested in using skyboxes quite a while ago due to the ugly nature of the fog system GPG used to hide the edges of the frustrum. I gradually introduced the use of skyboxes within most of the NIS sequences used in the mod & generally I believe it works okay. With the opening NIS in LOA, there is definitely room for improvement as you can see the world being drawn by the game and buildings suddenly popping into existence (fog is automatically disabled if skyboxes are used with a region & as far as I know there's no way to use both together).

I generally expand the frustrum within moods using skyboxes to about 110 to 120 game units. Unfortunately the seefar hack in All*Saves tends to mess with the frustrum settings as well, even if its disabled. So I've been experimenting using All*Saves v1 which doesn't have the seefar hack included, only the saved games compatibility feature & its highly likely that this will be the version distributed with the next main release of the mod.

Remember that technically the DS2 engine is quite obsolete now compared to more modern and advanced game engines and the system used by GPG, while allowing the use of streaming worlds, is very limited. That's why there was so much fog and restricted camera angles used in DS1 & DS2, to hide these limitations.

Watch the video it shows people and other objects as boxes. Not all so I think it is the ambients from DS1 Legends of aranna I think he converted the dres file and not the map file/

So Gemeaux333 needs the Objects_DS1_french.ds2res file he gave me a link to. For sounds and voices he'll need Sound_DS1_French.ds2res & Voices_DS1_French.ds2res.

Alternatively if he still has problems, I'll upload the unified objects.ds2res I've been using for quite a while in testing for steam users. It includes all required art assets for the Legendary Mod so no conversions are necessary. He'll still need the converted Sound & Voices ds2res files. I have tested those and as I reported to Gemeaux333 in a PM, they work.

As for the mood in the NIS, I found out that the fog settings DO have an effect, even if the mood doesn't get rendered. So by dramatically increasing the fog settings in the mood, the NIS intro now renders the entire town!

So I should be able to make all the other NIS sequences look a lot better than they do now.

The problem is with Objects_DS1.ds2res. I was able to duplicate the error on all maps starting with either DS2 AllSaves or BW AllSaves. Renaming the file to what it originally was DS1_Objects (it causes other issues) but not the one seen, however if the file is totally removed you get the problem Eksevis was seeing. Therefore either the file was never converted and correctly renamed to Objects_DS1.ds2res or the file is corrupted (possibly a different file than objects.dsres was converted?) I think uploading the unified objects.ds2res would solve problems for a good number of people not just those using Steam. I assume that if a person where to download this unified objects.ds2res they would also need to remove the older versions of DS1 and DS2 objects files.

So this bright look could indirectly promote (too) high See Far setting - with all the increased risk of suffering performance/quest-tirggering/area-fading/object-activation/... problems it may cause.

"Please note that the mod must be installed in the Dungeon Siege 2 resources folder even if you own Broken World. Unexpected glitches will occur if you don't." Yes you have done that, but what are the six 2006-dated files xLogic etc in your folder? Are these BW? Has Steam amalgamated the base and BW resources folders? Modders, is this a problem?

By the way, should you add third party maps as well, then another tiny mod is well worth having - DS2_Map_Selection_Menu_Fix_v1.ds2res

Dungeon Siege 1 is definitely installed. The reason I can't play it is entirely a technological error in large part due to the aging of the game. The Xsuch'n'such are the BW files that came with an unofficial patch that was uploaded for what most would argue to be fair use yadda yadda, it's a long story.

As for the converting, none of it was directly done by me; literally all I did was download what Iryan provided in the main/first post. As to the renaming thing, I'm honestly not sure what I'm supposed to do... so, sorry about any misunderstandings there.

I re-installed things.

@Bare_Elf for me, the sleeping Legionnaires in Glacern vanished when returning after a saved game.

Note the Radar Map in these shots from the Crypts of the Blood

Hmm, I am now up to 477 pics in my public Photopbucket(tm) library giving a pictoral history of mainly Legends back to (I think) Beta15 or Beta17 :wacko:

You are definitely missing some assets from a converted DS1 Objects file so that's why there's blocks everywhere.

I've posted an already converted & combined Content Pack for the DS1 and LOA art assets in the Beta section of the thread page. Note that you still need KillerGremal's content pack as well. Also note that you still need converted Sound & Voices ds2res files from DS1 & LOA.
http://www.siegetheday.org/~iryan/files/Betav32/DS1_Mod_Content_SE_Beta32k.ds2res (348 Mb)

It is a very big file at 348 Mb but still overall a saving of HD space compare to having the previous content pack and converted DS1 Objects ds2res in your resources folder (if anyone's worried about such things in these times of generally massive Hard Disk drives).

Please remove the existing DS1_Mod_Content_Beta30.ds2res & DS1_Mod_Exp_Content_Beta30b.ds2res as they will no longer be required.

You will also be lacking voices & sound within your DS1 maps as there's no converted files for those in your folder. I will make available later a file adding those. This will mean that all the DS1/LOA assets will be available here without the need for conversion but for the next official release I will probably be looking at just a simple file/folder check for the installer rather than a registry check, to make things compatible with the Steam version. Then all of these beta files will be removed from the thread.

Let me know if there's still issues.

I decided to give the new file a try. I turned off DS1_Mod_Content_Beta30.ds2res, DS1_Mod_Exp_Content_Beta30b.ds2res & Objects_DS1.ds2res as I have plenty of hard drive space and at some point I may wish to go back to the older files. I will run DS1_Mod_Content_SE_Beta32k.ds2res on one computer and DS1_Mod_Content_Beta30.ds2res, DS1_Mod_Exp_Content_Beta30b.ds2res & Objects_DS1.ds2res on the other.

Good Luck Eksevis remember it is not just necessary to have ds1 and dsloa installed files from those games must be converted and placed in the DS2 Resources folder. You will not have to convert Objects.dsres now with iryan's new file but you will need to convert voices and sound files from ds1 and loa. If you are unsure as how to do this please let me know via pm.

http://www.siegetheday.org/~iryan/files/Betav32/DS1_Mod_Sounds_SE_Beta32k.ds2res
http://www.siegetheday.org/~iryan/files/Betav32/DS1_Mod_Voices_SE_Beta32k.ds2res

Restarted after installing updated logic file to fix Phraks and removing my mod that used Kelti's template

Utraean Peninsula SE 32K

Broken World AllSaves

Monster Level Adjust Status LOCAL

[=16] Unified Objects, Sound and Voice Files uploaded 1/23/2016

See Far Hack On

Save Location

Redwood Gap Direct Connect

Quest Log

Primary Quests – Elddim Townstone, Crystwind Townstone, Fallraen Townstone, Meren Townstone, Lang Townstone,

Secondary Quests – Farmer's Scythe, New Way to Travel, Orchard Cellar, Hovart's Folly, Travel to Crystwind, Dwarven Secrets, Travel to Fallraen, Fallraen Barracks, Travel to Meren, Dornek's Quarry, Pirates of Meren, Confront Bandit Boss, Travel to Lang, Pit of Despair, Conquer the Pit of Despair, Flooded Sanctuary,

Comments, Fixes That Work, Errors, Problems

1. Other than a few minor issues already reported Map looks nice.

2. Monsters leveling correctly

3. Quests completing correctly.

4. No Hiring problems.

5. Using the unified Objects, Sound and Voice Files.

Party Members

Kylee Level 43 Sharpshooter

Tiahna Level 43 Sharpshooter

Xavier Level 43 Sharpshooter

Arisu Level 43 Magus

Sheba Level 43 Magus

Briahra Level 43 Magus

More test results Yesterhaven Beta32j

Quests

Reloaded from save taken at Citadel of Ash entrance teleport, which I'd reached without quests from mayor. Collected quests from mayor now. Spoke to mayor again before facing Fire King - mayor said thank you for saving us instead of a get-on-with-it. Took teleport to steppes, climbed rest of way up mountain to the entrance where I'd already collected the Citadel secondary quest (now complete), and the Mount Underforge secondary quest I now had completed correctly. (So this trigger endures for multi-shots.)

In the Citadel, the two primary arrows (for King and Chalice) display correctly whenever party is distant enough from the quest stars (including when party is indoors going round the ground floor), but the stars themselves do not show on radar when party is indoors (either floor). They do show when party is in the inner forecourt, when party is on the outside battlements (1st floor level to a Brit, 2nd floor level by US thinking) and when party reaches the upper rooftop.

After beating the Fire King (though I suspect that is unnecessary, just run rings round him to grab the Chalice - or not - and reach Dante), the elevators back to surface work without one having to speak to Dante (so without one having completed the quests), and Dante signs off the Chalice quest when one speaks to him even if one has not picked up the Chalice!

From anywhere on the journey to the surface, and even from the surface itself (epilogue Ruins), town portal spell delivers party to hot town.

Not tested: transition from Act II to Act III - doors from the master's tomb into cemetery are shut after save and reload in hot town. This is correct, but exactly when do they shut themselves behind party?

Trivia

Elevators within Citadel and on journey home all work - this includes gathering party onto platform and, if I use wait mode to split the party, those left behind can recall even the final elevators intended to be used one way only.

Act III bestiary is complete.

Y32j#37. Main map in journal (all Acts) - picture zoomed out is slightly bigger than frame, but it starts zoomed in and wrongly centred so three quarters of frame is empty. Bottom left corner of picture shows in top right corner of frame - player can drag picture to reveal the rest. If this was deliberate (the part that shows is the Winterspire for Act I) it might be better to start at half zoom showing the bottom right of the map (town and snow); then the forest-swamp (left half of map, midway up) should be brought into frame for Act II and the desert (top right) for Act III.

The same applies when teleports display the map. Look closely and key locations (including the town itself) can be made out, so most teleport sites could be marked for zeroing in on. The only poser is where to mark the underground Citadel.

However for testing the new tanks out, not having the old tanks present, would help check that nothing was left out accidentally. These things do happen from time to time, especially with me.