DS1 Legendary Mod for DS2 Beta Thread

Thanks, RSimpkinuk57, I temporarily removed the file from my folder and the door worked. I must remember to do this, if I run into more broken doors in the future. Hopefully, this recurring issue will soon be resolved in the file itself.

Here are a few more screenshots to show how unbalanced the new staves are:

Edit: by the way, that issue with non-interactive teleporters that I mentioned a couple times is most likely caused by the Mod-DS1Content-Alpha file as well.

The Jade Staff and Utraean Gemstaff (3rd and 4th pictures) are the only two I recognise as belonging to the Legendary Mod itself (having been taken from LoA) - I take it the complaint against them is too little melee damage for their level?

No, the point was to show the vast difference in intelligence and melee damage bonuses, and the fact that these bonuses do not progress logically (lower-level staves should give weaker bonuses, higher-level staves should give high bonuses).

It was already established in this thread that the new weapons are not from some other mods that I use, but from the Adepts mod. Weapons from the Adepts mod were incorporated into the Legendary Mod.

I do not know how to do that. All I can do is play through the maps and report any and all errors, including what might be an error. I also make suggestions sometimes, because I like the game and like the mods, and want them to be even better.

My further notes from my playthroughs of Legendary Mod:

DS1: LoA
1) Shadowjumper's Bestiary entry has text errors in a few places (Image 1).

2) The Orb of Poultry cannot be obtained, and the journal entry describes it as not working, but there is a mod called Ancient Gifts that has orb spells similar to DS1 ones.

3) I don't get it, why can't I have Mac Daddy Cap of Procurement? It's not overpowered.

DS1: Yesterhaven
1) In a few places, a new area is announced with a subtitle intended for new chapter announcements (Image 2 - could not press key in time, but it was there; Image 3).

2) I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "Mister", not "Master" (Image 4).

3) I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "can", not "can't" (Image 5).

4) After opening the door of the townsfolk's hideout during the undead episode, the door keeps giving the quest item message every time I open it (Image 6).

5) When I looked at Shalindra's stats (Elite mode), I saw Image 7. I don't know if the stats make sense or not, so I'm showing this just in case.

6) Before getting treasure from the statue at the map's ending, the dialogue switch from the Aranna Legacy mod floats in the air by itself, before the player stash spawns after getting the treasure.

7) I would like to have some way to be able to hire this map's party members even after their part of the map was played. I did not hire any of them when meeting them, so they disappeared after I completed their part of the map. This also means that I could not complete their sidequests without them being in my party the entire time, even though the town, and thus them, was freed from the curse.

8 ) All three bosses felt very weak, although the Fire King was almost a decent challenge. This is probably because of the fact that the first two are spellcasters. Enemy spells become ultra-powerful 1-2-hit kills on later levels, but the Steal Magic curse from a good necromancer turns enemy spells into cotton candy.

It is not the only door in that room that does not open.

I mentioned it here (https://siegetheday.org/?q=comment/52425#comment-52425) and here (https://siegetheday.org/?q=comment/52293#comment-52293). I had the same problem with the last teleporter in the Return to Arhok map, which I hadn't posted about yet.

At the end of the main quest you need to interact with the statue. Once you do this, several treasure chests appear, and also player's stash. The player's stash has the dialogue switch button on it. However, even before you talk to the statue in that scene, the button still floats in the air at the location where player's stash is going to appear.

I've been playing through Utraean Penninsula map, and this is what I noticed so far:

1) Useless maps, again (image 1). In case you don't know, there is a wiki called dungeonsiege.fandom.com, and you can get high-quality maps for DS1 areas from there. For example, this: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dungeonsiege/images/f/f4/Elddim.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120309165926
from this page: https://dungeonsiege.fandom.com/wiki/Elddim

2) The shine-hint lingers forever even after I pick up the item it signifies (image 2).

3) The battle music starts playing way too early, when I approach the edge of Eldium (image 3).

4) A couple NPCs say "booring" insted of "boring" for some reason. I don't know why, so I'm reporting this just in case (images 4).

5) I'm getting jumped by Hak'u, of all things, in forests of Ehb! I would prefer them to be removed. Also, their level is way too low. I'm playing in Elite mode with a level adjustment mod active, and my party is level 70, but these enemies are level 42 for some reason (image 5).

6) Something weird happens with the map at this location (images 6).

7) I don't think Ivlisar is going to like this (image 7).

8 ) The respawn rate of monsters that come out of bushes is way too high. I barely have time to kill one group of ambushers, as another one already appears, and as I kill this group, a new one apprears, and so on.

Unfortunately, my save game has become corrupt, so there might be some problems with continuing my reports. Details are here: https://siegetheday.org/?q=node/7094

What would have helped the modders here - and in some other maps I can think of too - would be a way to automatically send to the inn any recruitable character that a player, when speaking to, chooses to decline (or has to, for lack of room in the party).

I have noticed that many of the nature magic and combat magic summoning spells provided by the mod cannot be found ingame... why ?

The mods added a lot of new summoning spells

yes but is there a technical reason some of them (Unguis, Maljin, Clay Golem, Googore, Hydrack, Syrrus,etc...) cannot be found ingame ?

On a different topic, I have just noticed that the "The Known Elements" board right on the adjacent left wall when you enter the lost queen big chamber... is mostly in the wall and if you don't pass the cursor on it you wouldn't suspect its here unless you've played LOA, it should be moved a few units out of the wall !

There are indeed the impassable doors at the top of the Great Clock that no way you can open...!

Some time ago in this thread, I said that the Giant Moth summon does insane damage for its level. After comparing this spell to Summon Paragon Lertisk, I have to say that lertisk does more damage than moth, altough the moth could still probably eclipse lertisk if it was under the Wrath of Magic buff. It does seem very fragile compared to other summons though. So, there you go. Whether this is balanced or not is up for the experts on the game's workings to decide.

@Reinc: Concerning the Summoned Moth there is a typo error in its damage formula - quite obvious if you compare it with other summon spells GPG created for similar summons.

Besides of this, also the look of the summoned Moth does not really underline an increased damage output I think.
Of course this is a rather ambivalent argument, but within some borders this can allow some variance while still keeping it balanced overall.

Just to mention, in DS2 the summoned Raptor and summoned Lertisk are the most harmful/aggressive summons that GPG added, causing about 20-30% more damage than other summons - most probably just because this fits to their behaviour and look, and it may/should be 'counter-balanced' by any other stats (incl. those you can not easily see, moving speed, reaction time, regeneration, ...).

 
Related to your recent feedbacks:

Just about 6) I do not know/remember that situation... 'dialogue switch' ...appearing stash...?

5) is interesting+strange, unfortunately no real idea how/why a Hak'u (am)bush got there or why these Hak'm monsters just appear with their original Elite mode level...

6) Big secret? - I had to go there first...

8) Why exactly 'too high': Too many monsters per a group? Too short interval between the groups (from one and the same bush)? Or too many bushes spawning such monster groups?
Knowing this some better would help I guess, a tricky the setup of spawning generators can be.
 

I explained the situation with the dialogue switch in another post a bit later in the thread:

"At the end of the main quest you need to interact with the statue. Once you do this, several treasure chests appear, and also player's stash. The player's stash has the dialogue switch button on it. However, even before you talk to the statue in that scene, the button still floats in the air at the location where player's stash is going to appear."

If you still can't understand, then maybe playing the map yourself will help.

When I said "respawn rate" is too high, I did not give enough information, beacause I did not have it. Now that I ran through most of the Great Northern Forest, I can tell that most of the bushes do not respawn monsters. There were, however, a couple bushes somewhere closer to Eldium which respawned their monster non-stop, meaning that the monsters appear one by one, but they do not stop coming out, and they come out at such rapid rate that I barely have time to kill one of them before another one appears, which essentialy traps me in an endless battle. The only way to stop monster spawning was to go some distance away from the bush.

Killergremal, however you ensure the MLA button always goes next to the stash, apparently attached to its side, is it a distinct object so that selecting the stash does one thing (opens it) and selecting the button does another? The stash is in the \containers subfolder. I don't know where to look for the button object, but guess iryan (I presume it was he) failed to give it a matching aspect this time.

(In other words, Reinc, the stash chest is there the whole time, but we cannot see it until we've touched the statue.)

Thanks, I start to understand now - the term 'dialogue switch' was the problem. Indeed there is something like a dialogue switch (and once, one intended location was the stash actually).
But here the switch to regulate the bevaviour of the Level Adjustment mod is meant...!(?)

Indeed the stash did not get the intelligence to toggle on/off this switch depending on its current visibility state.
A looping visibility check to show/hide the switch/button seems to be a bit overkill to me, but a 'go on waiting until visible' condition can be added before the button gets produced/attached.

 
...and, perhaps it would be good idea to remove this switch from the stash again and to add a 'real' option in the option menu anyhow/anywhere instead. An extra tab for settings just for the map you are currently playing would be nice...

Unfortunately when things are not selectable (or without any action when selected) can have different reasons. The 'selectable' property is false for some reasons, the point/spot on the map where to go+touch the presumingly selectable object can not be accessed (so a path-finding matter, often because a use_point is inside a blocking area), the event of using/touching the object is not correctly forwarded (e.g. because of a missing setup, or target changed in a later map revision) there may be technical failures (as over-tuned 'use job' and the 'lever mechanics' meanwhile are quite), other non-related (skirt) errors can have wide side-effects too, ...

So it's actually not so easy to find out that the reason for this matter is. I hope I will have some more time around X-Mas to look at it again.

Besides of some language tunings it will re-introduce the 'door mechanism' from 2012/2013 which work quite fine.

For the time being this seems to be the best thing to do, even if this means there is no more work-around to automatically ground-snap (slightly) hovering doors/gates.
But as it turned out the varity of doors and gates in DS1/DS2 makes it difficult to predict if door/gate is accidentially above ground position or not - however this is bacially a (rather rare) mapping problem and better should be solved inside the map files and not in the skrit running these objects.

So this is still the main / official hub of legendary Mod, correct? For awhile, i've had a conversion of the textures from this mod to go back to DS1 - "DS2's Legendary Mod's Textures in DS1", basically. I have had the intent to edit them, and I have made light edits in the current release version, HOWEVER, someone has reported my file, and the admins of Nexusmods want to know if I have permission to upload the mod.

Do I have permission to upload Legendary Mod's Textures (for DS1)?

I suggest you read the read-me file for the legendary mod for permissions. I did not create any of the textures, therefore I can not answer. However a lot of things in the legendary mod where converted from Dungeon Siege 1. Also Textures are shared by both Dungeon Siege 1 and Dungeon Siege 2. Maybe our definitions on what a texture is are different.

It seems we are all in agreement that you have permission to make whatever changes you want. So long as you give us credit for our work in the read-me file.

As my playthrough of this mod's maps continues, here are more notes for the Utraean Penninsula map:

1) After clearing the dwarven mines from the duergars, I found that my bestiary has no entries on any duergar types, not even "more research required" entries.

2) This map sometimes gives me these recipe items that do not transform into rare items, and do not give me a recipe entry in my journal. I guess I have to add that I'm playing with the enabled option from the Aranna Legacy mod (that's where it's from, I think? ) that transfers your discovered recipes to other maps. (Image 1)

3) There were some other unusually weak enemies that I met in the Great Northern Forest. Not every monster of these types that I met on this map was weak, that includes Hak'u. In other parts of the map's world I also sometimes meet enemies that feel a little weak, as if their stats were not boosted by the level adjustment mod. (Images 2)

4) Every mimic I've encountered on the map was invincible, similar to the ones from the Morden Snow Canyon mod, which I reported some time ago. Could this be caused by the new Mod-DS1Content-Alpha11g.ds2res mod? (Images 3)

5) The cutscene and the music for the Stone Beast boss starts too late. I killed it before I even got the announcement that I'm fighting a boss. The cutscene and the announcement should happen when you approach the far side of the rock from which you need to be transported to the place where the boss awaits (Image 4).

6) Sometimes I get the wrong area subtitle when I teleport through my previous-session-portal (Image 5).

7) Another type of weapon with malfunctioning stats is an elendil (Image 6).

8 ) The bestiary entries for Maljins have text errors in them (Images 7).

9) Trella Lauron in Crystwind is supposed to give you a quest to find an item, which is supposed to drop from a Krug shaman near the town. But she does not give the quest in this map (Image 8).

10) Okay, I already talked a couple times about the useless maps, but this one is just ridiculous (Image 9).

11) This camp with a couple NPCs that you need to find to complete the Great Explorer quest has its own announcement subtitle. However, the announcement appears too late when you approach it from the East (in fact, I don't remember it appearing at all). It does appear normally from the West, even though there is no way to normally approach this location from the west without having already visited it (Image 10).

12) Why would you put Skath into the ravines between Eldium and Crystwind? They live in the Azunite Desert! (Image 11)

13) Sometimes, when I drop an item from my inventory, its label will change into something else. I have no clue how or when it happens (Images 12). This seems different from the way a label changes when I drop a potion when holding Alt.

14) Some sitting characters appear to be floating in the air with no chairs or benches underneath (Images 13). One of these images also caught my eye with what appears to be a typo, where "you're" could be "you've". And the other one has a character model going inside the table.

15) This NPC on the second floor of the Falraen inn seems to really not want to get out of bed (Image 14).

16) In the original, there was a sleeping dwarf named Lorun in one of the houses in Fallraen. I could not find him anywhere. Was this because I have him in my roster in the inn? If not, it could be a cool idea to add him in this town, and have him not appear if you already have him, similar to how companions in DS2: BW work (Image 15).

17) In the ice catacombs, there were two rooms with non-tranparent ceilings that I could not see anything in, unless I zoomed all the way in (Images 16).

18) Crystalline enemies, like ice warriors, ice archers, ice golems, shards, etc. create weird visual effects when I use the Harvest Soul power on them (Images 17).

A general complaint about all maps in the Legendary mod is that the quest journal entries feel too hand-holdy. Most of the map space is not so sprawling and interconnected that the usual roadsigns and compass markers could possibly be not enough to navigate to your objective. Yet, there often are quests that read like "enter the cave", "reach the middle of the cave", "exit the cave from the other side", and so on.

Another general complaint is the presence of cutscenes, especially boss fight cutscenes that are not in the original. I would prefer them to be removed.

And another complaint about all maps is that the reagent vendors seem to sell level-adjusted goods, which makes using recipes quite difficult. There could be one map (maybe LoA?) that has normal reagent vendors, but the rest are bad like this (Image 18).

@Reinc:

1) The 'Bestiary' table must be updated/expanded manually, sometimes this gets forgotten... :o

2) These 'Recipe Items' are not from my DS1=>DS2 content pack and not content of the Aranna Legacy mod (and probably not affected by it).
However it's a nice idea to find recipes beyond quests.

3) The Level Adjustment mod just provides functions to the change the monster's level - assumed it's a typical monster based on templates (and formulae) GPG made.
Now when monsters are placed on a map there are several ways to have influence how far these functions should be effective (or if at all). So the templates used should be revised or the adjustment settings.

4) The mimics GPG created seem to work some different in the BW addon, and their setup was a bit trickier too.
For this reason there is the template called 'mock_chest_utrea' which is intended to be self-configurating. Maybe this template is not used everywhere, or there are perhaps obsolte 'property switchers' left.

10) I don't think Iryan had something against if you would contribute a more useful map.

13) Hm... but only with potions?
And how did you drop them? By drap+drop with your mouse perhaps? Or just 'Ctrl + click'?

14) Could it be that your object slider (see game options) is very low?
It's actually an object/template matter, not to appear with lower object settings. It can be only fixed if we can find out what its template name is or where (exactly) it was placed on a map.

18) That's very weird indeed...

A big portion of your discoveries seems to be map related, and I guess you have to wait until the next revision.
Generally it would help a lot in such cases to get a screen shot (again ) with a 'Ctrl+Alt dropped' health potion to see its position.

@KillerGremal:

2) Finding recipes instead of rare items is a feature of DS2: BW.

10) I already gave a link to https://dungeonsiege.fandom.com/wiki/ website, which has a ton of maps for DS1 areas. They might not be the best choice because of some expected scaling issues, but it's nothing someone with some skill in Photoshop couldn't fix.

13) The issue I'm describing happens with any item. It happens when I drag-and-drop items from my inventory. It only started happening on this map.

About 2) I am aware of it, I just don't think remember, this (as in your image) is the official/GPG's way to provide/drop/give it to the player!?

About 10) I widely agree - some decent Photoshop skills and some time left...
Honestly I have plenty of things on my DS2 modding 'to do' lists, and contributing such maps does not really have a (big) priority - as desired they may be.

About 13) What is very strange, it should be only appear with potions if you additionally keep the 'Alt' key pressed...
If you have a specific non-potion item name, then please let me know.