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True, I allowed the c++ tutorial in my DS2 Scripting and Programming forums, since I have many sections. I can link learning c++ to writting a dll or a tool for ds 2. That's my logic behind that. I also wanted more talk about code and such. I may end up making a game dev site linked to Siegecore in the future. There are many tuts on c++ and plan to make a sticky for em when I get to it. I don't mind custom ones. For ds2 dlls you will need to use m$ visual c++ 6 . Correct me if any other compilers work for writting ds2 dlls.