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what r pitchspoons?....actually wanted to do thrown pitchforks, but would have to borrow the Light and Dark Elves to do that as ds1 don't have throwing anims by default...maybe another time... I may expand on the pink, black and red weapons, just not sure what ones would look good perhaps all of them lol, will leave the armor to u and Kathy to make also been thinking about taking some ds2 minimaps and converting them to ds1 just for kicks but if I start too many projects I seldom complete what I start, so sticking to the small ones for now.