DS1 Legendary Mod for DS2 Beta Thread

Why some Phraks are level 60 i don't know, most levels for mercenary are between 30 and 40 (some higher for technical reasons).

XP sp2 on both systems (our lan network is strictly for playing older co-op games so I try to keep it as broadly compatible as possible)

I used the installer.

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The Level Adjustment should be Beta5m and the mod content should be version x not u

What is the Rune of Mending?, It's available for sale in both the Utrean Peninsula and LoA.

Will try updating those.

With MLA removed the mods seem quite playable. The only real problem I have is the DC portals not working for the second player. I really wish this game had a "teleport to party member" option like Torchlight 2 does. Having one player start where they should and the other respawning in the farmlands is a serious pita

I am currently revising all of the default levels in the templates so if the level adjustment mod is deactivated the monsters will be more or less around the level you'd expect them to be.

With the other issues reported for multiplayer, it has been difficult to solve them completely. Originally some npcs like Ulora were marked singleplayer only so wouldn't show but that should be fixed in the current version (beta 31m). Why only one player can recruit Gyorn I don't know but there's many aspects of the game designed to only work on a local machine and not globally on all machines so maybe some of the coding in the mod isn't working on a global level.

That's the odd part. Its not all phraks, just random ones. The others are normal. I ran through to the crypt in sp & ulora is there and works normally, so I'd guess an sp flag of some sort or an mp glitch of some kind.

I'll give 31m a shot but it will have to wait till the 15th, out of bandwidth for the month. Got 30 from moddb just a couple days ago, didn't realize there was a newer version when i downloaded it.

Thanks for the replies.

As with all bad things (monsters} there are several types. I have encountered that same issue with Phraks when not playing with the level adjustment mod. Some are level sixty others are level 17 or some other. I think you will find that the level 60 phraks are all of one type. Now I never had a level 60 phrak when playing with the level adjustment mod active until I had a player near to level 60.

My 31m party plodding through with monster_adjust_declared=true still hasn't moved against the pirates. Earlier, they saw Phraks (melee and ranged) being adjusted from:

level 60: flying about in the Farmlands
level 15: caged in Krug camps
level 40: hiding in random breakable crates (the melee ones are "Forest Phraks")

PATH2SD - list starts monsters at 7. My 31m hero started at 6.
SD_R1 - list starts monsters at 10. My 31m hero started at 9.
DM_R1 - list starts monsters at 14. My 31m hero started at 15.
PATH2NT - list starts monsters at 18. My 31m hero started at 19.
PATH2AC - list starts monsters at 20. My 31m hero started at 20.
AC - list starts monsters at 21. My 31m hero started at 22.
SR_R1 - list starts monsters at 23. My 31m hero started at 25.
DF_R1 - list starts monsters at 25. My 31m hero started at 27.
DS_R1 - list starts monsters at 27. My 31m hero started at 30.
GI_R1 - list starts monsters at 29. My 31m hero started at 33.
TR_R1 - list starts monsters at 32. My 31m hero is here at 36.

On the other hand my 31m speed-run group (also of 4 characters since adding Merik) is further ahead on the map, Fortress Kroth, with its hero only level 28. (Gresh is on the list as level 37 with his skeleton minions 35.) The speed-run group had avoided nearly everything in the swamp by taking to the water.

Detail feedback to follow.

First, if one disables MLA by the button on the side of the storage vault, THIS IS NOT SAVED. You have to disable again every time you restart.

I would like to see some level 1 monsters at the start. Farm skrubbs (#7) certainly (remember that the hero starts at zero and is past the first skrubb before attaining level 1). Maybe phraks (#5,#6) could be level 1 too despite the risk of this being too low for when one sees the last of them on the approach to Stonebridge (with MLA off, we must accept that formerly orange- or yellow-level monster types will become blue- or even green-level as one's hero progresses), and how about grass snakes (#4)?

#18 KRUG SHAMAN 02 (CRYPTS) - insert phrak-in-cage here if different from other phraks, and time to start thinking about the phraks, rats and giant rats from crates. NB #18, #19, #20, #21 are all met for the first time before the Crypts (along the path and in the secret side dungeon).

#29 SKRUBB SMALL (PATH2SD) - I take it this is the black skrubb: first one is behind the crypts exit (FH_R3) and the second at a far corner of beach before one gets to Stonebridge. These two being orange-level would be fair.

Either arakun spider or yellow spider is missing (from its position in the list I'd guess #38 SPIDER ADOLESCENT is meant to be the yellow, except that #44 ADO BOSS is the Big Arakun).

#68 and #69 two Krug bosses in the mines, yes - but Krug commanders missing.

#85 FUROK SLASHER comes after #83 BRAAK (PATH2AC) but the first slashers are two in Glacern's secret area (different region?). Should make no difference to the level chosen.

#87 SPIDER FROSTNID (PATH2AC) - should be frost spitter (magic) with another entry further on in AC for the melee frostnid.

KLAW BOSS (comes in the outdoor region around Jeriah's) missing between #98 and #99

#107 TROG BOSS and #111 TROG WARRIOR BOSS - are these two meant between them to cover the three mini-bosses "Chieftain", "Gladiator" and "Hero" (as I remember the last is just outside the big side dungeon where one finds the Fury Eye), or should there be an extra entry TROG KNIGHT BOSS?

#119 SPIKED MAW (DF_R1) - first maws are in the SR shortly after first stalagnids (#115). Should make no difference to level chosen. There should however be a MAW BOSS listed at the start of DF_R1.

#124 - ranger BANDITS might like to have a collective entry of their own.

#136 DUNGEON CRAWLER - as the map is now, one entry to cover both grave crawlers and the dungeon crawler is right, but in GPG's original the latter was equivalent to a mini-boss version of the former (or rather, an instance of #249 as in the Castle dungeons, but obviously in DS2 a level-42 would not work in the swamp). Also, headless zombies were superior originally to zombies.

GOBBOT FLAMETHROWER: check the two in the swamp outside the cave entrance, they looked to me to be a lesser variant of the ones inside (#159) in which case they deserve their own entry?.

No entry for HUNTER BOSS (could come after #166 COPTER BOSS).

I finally got my party moving again, only for the game to "stop working" (as Windows put it) when I tried to sell Thayne a Bladed Staff.

DungeonSiege2.exe
Application Version: 2.20.0.3822
Application Timestamp: 432af9a5
Fault Module Name: DungeonSiege2.exe
Fault Module Version: 2.20.0.3822
Fault Module Timestamp: 432af9a5
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0009b0dc
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057

Reminds me of a crash long ago when I tried to sell a Zaurask-Catcher to Jonn in Stonebridge. If you really want the gory details I have two new files in my Logs folder: a CRASH file and a dxdiag.

This could also explain bare_elf's crash if she was using vanilla DS2 and had one of the offending items in her inventory. When attempting to save the game it would most likely crash when getting to the offending item.

My apologies for missing these couple of items. The logic.ds2res should now be fixed and I'll upload it latter on today if I get time after adjusting the levels of some of the earlier monsters for some feedback on level progression during play with the MLA off.

AS you mentioned in an earlier post, there will be discrepancies with monster levels, especially early on with the Phrak (found up to Stonebridge), Krug Scouts (found up to Glitterdelve and some encounters in the Mines) and even the initial monsters who are found up to the Crypts. There's also some instances later on with Black Wolves (found at the end of the Bandit forest and also later on around Bonepicker's Post) and Skeleton Mercenaries (found at Fortress Kroth and then later on before Castle Ehb).

To cover everything I would have to do a lot of cloning of templates, similarly to what GPG had to do in DS2. However if you're willing to test these out, I will start with level progression up to the Crypts. Keep in mind it's not only monsters that need adjustment of their levels but sanctuary doors, recruitable characters, possibly chests, etc. I will start with your list of the level progression as my list was purely speculative, I tend to rush through testing, only testing the major areas such as quests, etc, and don't send time killing each and every monster and finding every single chest and barrel on the map.

If it helps, I could rethink about a component allowing to assign the monster level in the SE2, and the resistance values as well.
Right now with the Level Adjustment mod you only can enforce an concrete level (approximately) if you would set for example inventory:width = 15 and inventory:height = 16 so the resulting monster level would be ~15 in-game (whatever it was in the template).

Should you start in different towns... - when I remember correctly, the desitinations of the teleporter stations will be copied from the host to the client (even if the client had more). Technical background is probably the trigger system. It could cause troubles if the client would be able to teleport to a (quest) location the host hasn't reached yet.
 

UPDATE (12:55): Mistake in my report on hero levels: PATH2SD should have been 8. (6 was the Path to Stonebridge i.e. FH_R3). Full table extended to Kroth:

CRYPTS - list starts monsters at 5. My 31m hero started at 5.
FH_R3 - list starts monsters at 6. My 31m hero started at 6.
PATH2SD - list starts monsters at 7. My 31m hero started at 8.
SD_R1 - list starts monsters at 10. My 31m hero started at 9.
DM_R1 - list starts monsters at 14. My 31m hero started at 15.
PATH2NT - list starts monsters at 18. My 31m hero started at 19.
PATH2AC - list starts monsters at 20. My 31m hero started at 20.
AC - list starts monsters at 21. My 31m hero started at 22.
SR_R1 - list starts monsters at 23. My 31m hero started at 25.
DF_R1 - list starts monsters at 25. My 31m hero started at 27.
DS_R1 - list starts monsters at 27. My 31m hero started at 30.
GI_R1 - list starts monsters at 29. My 31m hero started at 33.
TR_R1 - list starts monsters at 32. My 31m hero started at 36.
WD_R1 - list starts monsters at 33. My 31m hero started at 37.
FD_R1 - list starts monsters at 34. My 31m hero started at 39.
CF_R1 - list starts monsters at 35. My 31m hero started at 39.
DC_R1 - list starts monsters at 36. My 31m hero is here at 40. (same as 31c)

More monsters not on the first draft list: Pirate Boss, Cyclops, Larch Boss, Wolf Black Boss, Drake Blue Boss, Forest Darkling Boss, Water Lunger Boss, Picker Boss, Skeleton Merc Archer (except as lumped in with the melee), Skeleton Merc Mage, Skeleton Merc Boss, Bone Drake, Skeleton Merc Mage Boss, Skeleton Merc Archer Boss.

PS - how about making Larches weak to fire?

I also forgot that my latest group is on the version (2.2, Logic 31m, World 31m, Mod-DS1Content-Alpha10x, MLA 5m) where there is a problem with human male legionnaires. At Glacern they were there when I arrived but disappeared when I saved and restarted. At Kroth I have just arrived to find only Captain Tarish (why has he been spared?) and the dwarves - so no inn-keeper nor weapons/armor shop. (Potion seller in non-legion clothes is there of course.)

++++Further update (18:25): Looking back I see that 2014-11-19 @bare_elf arriving at Kroth with a new party found all legionnaires present and correct. This was with Logic 31m etc same as me except 2.3 whereas I am 2.2++++

"Wraiths too easy?" - no, not in this version (despite the WRAITH ARCHERs shooting slower than mine). One-to-one my characters are superior but that is how it should be (in my opinion). The one piece of tuning I'd recommend is for the melee WRAITHs with the two-handed axes to make up for slower attack by doing more damage.

(If only GPG's base templates matched what the comments said then "rogue" for the WRAITHs and "tank" for the BATTLE WRAITHs to emulate how they were in the original.)

A DC before going into the Flooded Dungeon would be most welcome. Between Thayne's house and Gregor's looks as good a place as any.

Since this list is region-specific obvisiously, with a little text editor manipulation it only would take some moments/minutes to assign a concrete level to all monsters placed in a region.

Let's say all monster in a region should have level ~27, and supposed the text editor used supports the replacement of multiple rows, then the following replacement had to be done in the actor.gas file of that region:

	[placement]

	[inventory]
	{
		grid_width = 27;
		grid_height = 28;
	}
	[placement]

After this editing/replacing it may happen of course that now there are two [inventory] blocks for one actor, but note that the second/lower block will be ignored in-game and in SE2 as well. So NPCs will keep their equipment assigned in the SE2.
However if monsters have already an SE2-made [inventory] block (rather unusual though) then the grid data must be added/merged manually.

After the first couple of regions in KOE, the above approach can be easily used for the default monster levels in the actor block as level progression is slower (in FH_R1 for example, the hero will go from level 1 to nearly 4).

An update using this method is imminent, I've just been distracted on working the start of the Utraean Peninsula since the current ds1_mod_logic.ds2res makes a few changes to it. Hopefully that will be ready soon for some testing and feedback,

 
There should be another 'mod state' probably too, not only on and off. Right now there is not way for the player to avoid the 'grid level' range if level adjustment is enabled.
This may be wanted by the mapper/modder perhaps, but gameplay-wise it may leave the impression to the player that such a map is quite useless until you have the right starting level.

E31m#103 Pirate quest-giver's icon does not change from gray ? to orange ? when the pirate captain is killed and the new task activates to report back.

(Two other things about this quest: the two soldiers could be turned back into proper legionnaires, better fitting the story; and the quest dialog and instructions are clumsy in story terms. A soldier wants you to kill the pirates so his route will be clear to return to Kroth. But he and his comrade have just explained that they didn't want to return to Kroth, they were going the other way with a message for Glacern. At least they were until learning your party has been sent from Glacern as the only reinforcements Kroth will get. In any case the pirates aren't blocking the route, you can get past them by keeping to the left, uphill from the signpost. They should be fought for the fun of it and for whatever treasure they have, good idea having a quest to draw players' attention, but having to go back to the quest-giver afterwards seems a bit of a waste of time.)

(PS I've just come up with an idea if you'd like to hear it.)

E31m#104 The Kroth potion-seller's displayed convo does not match the voice-over (the latter comes straight from the DS1 original).

I do like the way KillerGremal made the combative npcs act in a more realistic way in that they aren't just simply invincible but can be KO'd, etc.

I've said before but there's issues with trying to change a quest giver's icon status from anything other than a talk flick or at least I've not been able to get it working any other way. One possible solution could be having two versions of the quest giver with a property changing gizmo making one or the other visible or invisible as required. Messy but it may work.

I've already changed the two soldiers to legionnaires and tidied up their conversations as you're right, they conflict and don't add up as the legionnaires were sent from Fortress Kroth to get reinforcements, not trying to get back there.

I'll check the Kroth's potion seller's conversation. I've been using more branching conversations in this version and this could be one case that could benefit from that. And of course I'm always happy to hear any ideas you may have. I've already implemented quite a few of them so many thanks for your suggestions.

As always RL has interrupted progress on the interim version 31n but its basically ready. I've just been waiting for KillerGremal's next content pack version which is suppose to include an improved auto levelling of party members returning from the Inn. I've successfully implemented a flick based version triggered from the player confirming the party members conversation on returning to the party but the show me your skills doesn't update and the flick can be broken if the player cancels the conversation so the party member won't update their level to the hero's level.

As well some monsters will be a little nastier. Thanks to KillerGremal's help some monsters will now have the smite skill which the player has access to in the melee skillset. Zombies and some other undead should also be able to infect you if you get too close. Some bosses have also been tweaked.

There's a partial update Beta 31n released mostly because of an inadvertent crash bug in DS2 due to incorrectly assigned modifiers in some items. Unfortunately it is also recommended to download Kingdom of Ehb and the Utraean Peninsula again since the current Beta31n makes changes to those maps which could cause issues in current games. Some aspects of saved games could still be broken, mostly a couple of quests that have changed. This only extends to the Orchard Cellar Quest in the Utraean Peninsula but extends throughout the questline in Kingdom of Ehb.

http://www.siegetheday.org/~iryan/files/Betav31/DS1_Mod_Logic_Beta31n.ds2res
http://www.siegetheday.org/~iryan/files/Betav31/DS1_Map_World_Beta31n.ds2res
http://www.siegetheday.org/~iryan/files/Betav31/DS1_Map_Utraean_Peninsula_Beta31n.ds2res

The only changes made to the Utraean Peninsula has been in Elddim, a new NIS, a new recruitable character, another that has been moved and all 4 starting recruitable characters are conditional who can recruit them. Without a bit of work, you will only ever be able to recruit 3 of them no matter what your starting class is.

The Kingdom of Ehb has had a bit of work right to the end but currently only tested to the beginning of the Fortress Kroth region. Characters recruited back from the Inn should level up but only if you respond to their conversation upon being recruited again from the Inn. If you cancel the conversation the flick controlling their levelling will probably break. Choosing to view their skills also doesn't work. There's also an option to permanently disband party members the same way as pets because now there's 39 recruitable characters over the 4 maps which is way more than the Inn can handle (credit to FreakCandy for the mod).

The conditional recruitment of party member extends through Kingdom of Ehb so even though for the first time all 16 recruitable characters are available, they can't all be recruited in a single playthrough. Some are skill dependant, some are race dependant. Only the 5 "free" recruitable characters from DS1 don't have some sort of conditional recruiting on them. The rest have a new icon denoting that they may be available to hire. Just talk to them to see if they will offer to join you.

Monsters have had provisional levels assigned to them up to the beginning of the Crypts for anyone who wants to test it without the MLA mod activated. As mentioned in the earlier posts, some monsters have been assigned new skills and abilities but this is largely untested.

Flooded Sanctuary in the Peninsula. Several creatures would attack without drawing a response so vision height needs adjusted. Sometimes only the character attacked would respond and other times everyone would just stand there. Have not tried it with the farsee hack on yet.

When approached from side one NO buttons on wall, when I reached the other side (side 2) a button appeared on side 1, when going back to side 1 the other button appeared but Neither could be clicked on

While continuing to hunt Bone Minions :twisted: I will upgdate to 31n and start a Dryad ranger in Ehb

:xtree:

I got the updated files and it seems like it fixed some of my issues. Unfortunately that was JUST before the newest batch of 3 a few posts down so I'm unable to test it without MLA.

My main problem with MLA is there's no reason to lvl. Everything stays at about the same difficulty the whole game. Even if you have to backtrack. Not to mention some monsters do NOT scale well. You end up with what should be trash mobs being the most deadly because they swarm and they're the same power as the big brutish things that SHOULD really hurt, but never do. (this is really noticeable with those sand skitters in Valley of the Azunites for example) So it inverts the whole concept.

Added to that the only way I've found to make MLA not active in the orig DS2 map is to remove it's file from the resources folder. I was under the impression that it should only activate in maps that tell it to, but whenever I play a normal ds2 game here come the level matched ha'ku even if I'm lvl 86 in mercenary.

Think I'll try my hand at editing the monster levels for a bit. See what I can come up with.

I see you used KillerGremal's starting class selector as found in Diabloish I always like that feature. I also like that some of the hireable characters will not let you hire them based on something about your skills, race or whatever. For Example Tiahna will not allow you to hire her if your a ranger.
Now as to Tiahna when i figured out what was needed to hire her I found that her head/face color is brown like Arisu but her body is light green. As a quick fix I just used the body color Arisu has on Tiahna. Now it is back to finishing Legends of Aranna.

Very nice update iryan

The MLA mod is KillerGremal's work so maybe he can look into it for you. With editing monster levels by hand, so to speak, in their templates, certainly feel free to do so. You can use the table I posted a little earlier as a basis, adjusted with comments from others. The monster levels are found in the actor block in their leaf templates.

The recent updates with revision n for the maps bugs the campaign selector so that Dungeon Siege 2 doesn't appear in the list but the modded ones do.Is there any issues on other peoples end?

I have made a fix for it available here: http://www.siegetheday.org/~iryan/files/UI/DS2_Map_Selection_Menu_Fix_v1.zip

- The Map Description can now display at least 40 characters.
- The Map Info Information now works and can display up to 4 lines of text with 36 characters per line.
- The number of possible maps has been extended and tested up to 26 maps.

Just place the fix in the DS2 resources folder. Please note that while the fix is compatible with Broken World, the map selection menu will be justified to the left due to Broken World's higher menu resolution. There is nothing wrong with the Broken World map menu so this fix isn't necessary for the addon.

I would appreciate feedback on the fix. It has been available since June this year but never released due to limited feedback. If it works for all DS2 users, I'll post it in the thread heading and maybe bare_elf might add it to the downloads here at SiegetheDay.

Sorry Iryan,
I thought it was released, I have been using it ever since you and I discovered that DS2 could display only a very limited number of maps.
I can display in DS2 or BW map selection screens all the maps for DS2 associated with the Legendary Mod, the retail maps, Dark Elf's mini maps and the third party maps that you and KillerGremal have done.